Scream …. in the name of Allah

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Police stand by as Madressah students as they reconstruct Masjid Amir Hamza within 24 hours after it was demolished by CDA on Saturday as illegal construction.

Islamabad, like many other cities in Pakistan, is flourished with such mosques and madressahs. CDA has pinpointed some of such illegally built blocks – Let’s see if they end up like this or …..!

And in case soemone raise a point – I’m NOT stating against the madressahs or mosques – It’s their ILLEGAL construction — By occupying a certain space and slowly spreading your wings to make a LARGE-SIZED mosque and then an adjacent madressah — One point to think here is by offering prayers in such mosques we are promoting the idea.

Occupying canals of illegal land on this basis is the easiest thing to do in Pakistan – since the “mullahs” (and I’m referring to a certain lot not the true to heart Islamic Scholars) can be easily agitated on these grounds … demolishing a mosque means Riots can be started easily …!

May Allah have mercy on us all … Amen!

17 Comments so far

  1. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 10:49 am

    Asma specially pointed out this link to me after her visit to KMB. Thanks asma

    Illegal construction in any form is disallowed whether it’s construction of a madrasah or a mall. This wouldn’t be first illegal construction in ISB or in Pakistan as we all know several illegal constructions have been done by other communities like Army,politicians ,feudals etc but we tend to ignore them because those targets are not weak like “Islam” these days plus we re part of such communities[army,politics]. In present days,if you want to be highlited, start cursing Islam and you are “honoured” :-). I hope author is not trying to fool readers by claiming that in Pakistan illegal construction is done by religious people only:-)


    demolishing a mosque means Riots can be started easily …!

    sorry, demolishing any dearest thing[whether a masjid,church,temple,imam bargah, etc etc] COULD riot easily. I hope you re not saying that minorities of Pakistan didnt create mess after demolishing of their praying places ;). Let someone demolish your home, you will sure react even if it’s illegal because you start loving it,it’s human nature which you can’t change but yes it doesn’t allow someone to take advantage and do evil things.

    By the way Asma, FYI, the administration of a madrassah is not necessarily to be a person with religious background. I personally know madrassahs in Karachi where administration stuff has not even done any course of Alim. I thought to clarify this because usually our innocent awam is fooled by others and americans that madarassah means everything from top to bottom run by Mullahs.

    I hope you learnt something new today:-)


  2. JayJay (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 11:05 am

    The problem of usurpation of public land is more endemic in Islamabad that other cities. In Islamabad most of non-residential land is owned by the government unlike in other cities. It is easier to illegally squat on government land as governments are always lazy to take action, while private citizens will not easily dole out their personal property.

    The modus operandi of the Mullahs is that they take an incremental approach. First, they will chose a prime spot around a shopping area or a public park. You will see a couple of mats (chatais) appearing first and an occasional person praying there. Then there will be more regular prayers with participants increasing to 5 to 10. A few days later you will see a rough shade erected in the form of a few roughly cut branches or a piece of thick cloth. Importantly, it all soon accompanies a locked box for ‘chanda” installed in concrete and the naming of the mosque. The clumsy structure quickly turns into a permanent one, with an attached home of the chief mullah to the boot. Now there is no turning back as it is next to impossible for the administration to intervene. If they intervene at all, they do so at the fear of getting ‘fatwas’ declaring the official apostates – the prime weapon of the clergy.

    In Islamabad the presence of a mosque in an area does not guarantee that there will not be another one constructed in the vicinity, whether needed or not. I have seen four mosques within 500 meter radius in G-10/1. All trying to shout each other down when it comes to the multi-speaker powered Azaans or sermons on Friday.


  3. faisal (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 11:59 am

    Better watch out!
    Adnan Siddiqui, the mad mullah of KMB, has shown up here as well.


  4. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 2:36 pm

    Thankyou faisal of KMB for your kind words. Khuda tumhari zaban aur daraz karay-ameen. :-)


  5. JayJay (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

    Mullah Adnan’s fresh pearls of wisdom are:
    “Illegal construction in any form is disallowed whether it’s construction of a madrasah or a mall. This wouldn’t be first illegal construction in ISB or in Pakistan as we all know several illegal constructions have been done by other communities like Army,politicians ,feudals etc but we tend to ignore them because those targets are not weak like “Islam” these days plus we re part of such communities[army,politics].”
    May I humbly submit the following points for your consideration [I know it all will amount to nothing more than playing the proverbial flute in front of a proverbial bovine but records need to set straight]
    • Illegal construction happens in all sectors – business, military, feudal, etc – but the sanctity of religion attached to mosques does not apply to other encroachments. The two acts can’t be put in the same basket.
    • Illegal construction by military or business does not justify the illegal construction of a mosque. Rather an (criminal) act of encroachment by a religious institution/mosque amounts to giving a tacit legitimization to the illegal acts by other sectors, not the other way around.
    • This post is only focusing on the illegal construction, and subsequent demolition, of a mosque. Other encroachments are not in the purview.
    • No other act brings a religion more in disrepute than the sanctioning of the violation of the law of land in the grab of religion, which is exactly what happens when a mosque is built illegally on a public property. Then you lament the image problem for Islam as well as for the thekedars [mad mullahs] of Islam. Image is the reflection of reality.
    • Mosques are considered the ultimate symbol of religious devotion and the mullahs are considered [very wrongly I believe] the ultimate torchbearers of morality. The clergy’s position due to their association with religion puts an extra-level of expectations and associated scrutiny on them. If they start plundering the public lands in the garb of religions, us mortal are right in blaming them for letting both the religion and the nation down.


  6. mansoor (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 3:18 pm

    “and I’m referring to a certain lot not the true to heart Islamic Scholars” nice save asma :D


  7. A for [pine]Apple (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 3:24 pm

    Mansoor
    Guess what – I wrote the post after throughly reading your post and bits of discussion ;-)


  8. hassaan (unregistered) on January 22nd, 2007 @ 8:29 pm

    ^ lol


  9. A for [pine]Apple (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 1:02 am

    Hmmm

    Adnan Siddiqi: Lolz at invitation :-) I agree as per Illegal construction — since THAT is THE point I wana make here – and NO I do not think that only illegalities are done by religious (sorry but I won’t even call them Religious they are just fanatics who couldn’t understand the soul of Islam) ppl … others equally take part … anyways thanks for adding things to my info-base but FYI, too, guess what many madressahs (I’m not talking abt the full fledge madressahs with soem serious education BUT the ones you would find in abundance in Islamabad sub sector mosques) usually have Ullama e Karaam who are matric fail … so maybe it’s kinda tip .. Cant do your matric jump into being an Alim — Do we really need such clergy ?? NO NOT AT ALL …! As per the “minorities” thing you are saying here — my dear you are living in a world of illusions — come out of it — when majorities are not save from each other then catering minorities seems lie a foolish idea …!

    But I agree with the spirit nd the intentions …!

    JayJay: Yah Islamabad is full of such mosques — BTW on lighter side tell you what they are blessing during Sahr time — azaanein hi azaanein :-)

    Faisal: Hmmm why can’t we put positivity in our thoughts *just wondering* :)

    Adnan Siddiqi : You tooo :P

    JayJay: Hmmmm ….!

    Hassaan: * LOL (back) :)


  10. Adnan Siddiqi (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 2:32 am


    usually have Ullama e Karaam who are matric fail … so maybe it’s kinda tip .. Cant do your matric jump into being an Alim

    This is something new for me because AFAIK,the majority of teachers[related to religious subject only] appointed there get education in madarassah system which I think has no relation with private/govt matric/inter system of Pakistan or ISB. My degree in computers is totally irrelevent there since it’s not going to help students over there to learn Islamic studies so even my status as a degree holder would not be better than a “matric fail” but again, one should not keep AN eye on a single system and ignore others. Many non-educated teachers have been serving in different schools of Pakistan specially in villages. The term “Ghost school” is very common in Pakistan which offcourse are not legal :>

    Asma who lives in illusionary world we both know well and discussed yesterday morning so better we don’t get dishonest with ourselves and don’t discuss it right here. Offcourse nowhere I mentioned a certain period or some certain minority sect or cult. What my point was that even if some temple is destructed then the beliver of that particular madhab would sure react and I told you the reason in above post. Offcourse in today’s era majority population that is muslims are DISALLOWED to go in faisal mosque due to tony blair but I see noone here made any post regarding that issue[?]. Maybe because the action was taken by non-Mullah guys who were army people. Maybe it was not highlited because some member[s] of this blog would be a son or daughter of some army man and wouldn’t be willing to expose something which is related to his/her family. As i said we usually target those who are not related with us or easy target. This is the world and its business :-)


  11. A for [pine]Apple (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 9:17 am

    Hmmm, as per Tony Blair is concerned … that must’ve skipped my knowledge I saw a link much later on ur blog I guess — otherwise I dont think so anyone here is against putting soemthing up bcoz thats not done by mullah (now you are using teh term :-p)

    And didn’t I mentioned I’m not speaking of the true madressahs but the ones which are in every galli muhala of Islamabad …. !!!

    Anyways … It’s a longggg discussion … that’s not very fruitful too … for neither of us or any of the reader!


  12. Adnan (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 10:16 am

    Asma nobody[or me] is blaming you so take it easy. I made a general statment about that faisal mosque incident and if you go thru archieve i did leave a link of that particular accident on your ISB blog.

    Offcourse good or bad things are everywhere not only in Islam or its related things. my whole point is that people raise fingers to expose others mistakes are not sin free either specially if it’s about Islam. Wo kahta hain na k ek teen unglian apni taraf point kar rahe hoti hain, bus yehi baat hay :-)


  13. A for [pine]Apple (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 10:22 am

    Oh accha bas itni siii baat thi … merci :-P

    BTW Merci means Thanks not mercy ;-)


  14. Talha (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 11:21 am

    Sigh

    It’s a pity that the only thing that qualifies a person to be a “mullah” is a beard.

    Allah taala humain acha musalman bannai ki taufeeq dei.

    However this is a hypocritical remark as I am not even praying regularly these days.

    I should be the last person to be pointing at others on this issue at-least :).

    However, nice post Asma!!!


  15. A for [pine]apple (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 1:20 pm

    *Sigh Sigh*


  16. Mullah From Hell (unregistered) on January 23rd, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

    “Allah taala humain acha musalman bannai ki taufeeq dei.”

    I wish I could become a better person:-


  17. Nawaz (unregistered) on January 26th, 2007 @ 9:26 pm

    It is amazing that so much is said about massajid being built illegally. It remains to be seen which independent authority has researched the subject and what is the outcome. The government has become hostile to the Muslims going to massajid or attending the madrassahs. It has summarily bombed and killed people in the massjid and madrassahs, claiming that there were military threats, whereas witnesses say they were all students. The media has been in collusion with the government. Whereas it gives thorough coverage to anti Islamic issues, it has shown no picture of the massjid bulldozed. Sources have said that along with the buildings the Qurans in them were also bulldozed. No Muslims would do that, out of respect to Quran, and the masjid. They must have hired non Muslims for the job. In addition, the slums and Churches of the Christians have been officially recognized,even though built illegally. There are 84 massajid declared illegal and the associated schools of Quran, but the media has not shown any of their pictures of details. Even the demolished massjid has not been shown, or talked about. They talked about the protesting girls, but not about the destroyed massjid. Most people in Pakistan are not even aware of what happened. This is the media. They are too busy entertaining the enlightened Pakistanis. If this is what it is that Muslims wronged are fine, rob them to pay the Christians and other minorities, then bye bye to the ‘enlightened moderation’ of general Parvez. Let him have it. No one else needs it.



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