Islamabad faces suicide bomb call

The head of a radical mosque in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, has threatened to use suicide bomb attacks against the government.
Maulana Abdul Aziz made his defiant call to thousands of followers during Friday prayers.

The government is facing calls to clamp down on the activites of students in two madrassas attached to the mosque.

If the government does take action, “our last resort will be suicide bombings”, Mr Aziz declared.

He also demanded that the government close down Islamabad’s video shops and brothels within one month.

The Taleban-style activity of Mr Aziz’s followers in the capital has caused outrage among human rights activists.

Last week female students from a madrassa that is part of Mr Aziz’s Lal Masjid (red mosque) complex abducted a woman they accused of running a brothel, holding her captive for two days.

Some of the students are also staging an armed occupation of a children’s library in the capital.

The government says it hopes to resolve its differences by peaceful means.

‘Last resort’

“If the government says it will launch an operation against us as a last resort, our last resort will be suicide bombings,” Mr Aziz told his supporters

the question is who is backing up Mr Aziz? it seems like as if they were planning to do so for very long time.
Mr Aziz also said that if government tried to kill or arrest any of us the mullahs in N.W.F.P will attack with their full force. according to resources it is been said that there are 30,000 mullahs present in islamabad.

A girl has been treatened by a mullah in islamabad and forced to cover her head. same incident happened in Lahore. the issue has started from children library and is leading to impossing islam on women in pakistan.
Women are not your property! i would say that donot be afraid of these fanatics.Be strong and face them strongly.

33 Comments so far

  1. Harris (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 4:32 am

    We may never get a better chance to get rid of 30,000 mullahs at one time. Where did I put my flame thrower?


  2. Pak_Stallion (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 4:46 am

    What the hell is this government doing? Why are they not taking any action? What are they waiting for?

    I ASK FOR JIHAD AGAINST THESE MULLAH’s


  3. Babar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 7:44 am

    What a beautiful outcome of “enlightened moderation” compaign. This is bound to happen when the whole purpose of the government is to keep a man in uniform and the presidential palace.
    But its realy shameful for musharraf, who is so fond of showing his fist to opponents, journalists and others, but in front of mullahs he becomes a real pussy. I think now there should not be any doubt in any body’s mind that the chief is just playing tricks with the nation. He is not sincere at all and doesnt mean what he says. This wasnt a very hard nut to crack, specialy given todays environemnt. But his single point agenda is to use whatever he can to cling to power.

    And I agree, if the giverment can not do anything, we must confront these zealots, and be not bullied by them. But the only we to do that is to get organized, as they are already over organized, and a single person can not stand up. they will just beat you up.


  4. Babar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 7:53 am

    Beleive me, I will not think of entering Islamabad nowadays, with my wife. What if we are walking on some street , going to some restaurant or taking lunch, and one of these bearded person comes and orders my wife to cover her head. Ofcourse I can not tolerate such humilation. But what if as a result of my confrontation, they abduct us. The rest is just unthinkable. I think one will have to leave the country for good, to get one’s sanity back, as one doesnt expect any action from this MMA (mullah millatary alliance) government. Its realy scary.

    In the past I was thinking of taking up a job in one of the educational/research institutions of Islamabad ( I have a phd in fundamental theoretical physics, and my wife has a phd in experimental physics), but now, no way. Its completely out of question, that I will think of living in this city.


  5. Dungar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 8:43 am

    I have a phd in fundamental theoretical physics

    Is string theory for real? If not what will you hang yourself with in moments of utter despair?


  6. DUngar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 8:52 am

    Shah Mehmood Qureshi President PPP(Punjab) said the “drama’ of Jamia Hafza is perptraed by Govt to diver the public attention.

    All the paranoids must demand that Govt reinstate the CJP and end this drama.


  7. Harris (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 9:31 am

    Shah Mehmood is a “Gaddi Nasheen” and “Pir” so he knows very well what a “drama” is.


  8. dungar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 10:07 am

    Hahahh………Good One!

    You are right, likes of him can sniff out the “drama” thousands of miles away.


  9. dungar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 10:20 am

    Still, I think the best option for the Govt is put an end to this fiasco and REINSTATE CHIEF JUSTICE OF PAKISTAN.

    Reading many news sites birngs out the following scenario:

    Suppose Govt takes tough action. News of female students beaten and their cloths torn makes way to public opinion. All the other Islamic parties take advantage of the situation and bring out their respective youth wings on streets. Other political parties join.

    With CJP case still hot, and advocates agitating, the whole situation explodes.

    Harris, I have a question, what will you achieve with your flame thrower infront of this volcano?


  10. Harris (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 10:52 am

    Dungar,

    You bring up a good point that the Government may have to face public backlash if the ninja girls are dealt with an iron fist but that is exactly why we are in this situation. Governments have to take though decisions everywhere to ensure a better future for the nation. If 100,000 have to be eliminated to save the future of 160 million then to me it’s a bargain.
    History only remembers those leaders who take the tough decisions. If Abraham Lincoln had tried to resolve the problem in the South through “talks” instead of crushing the uprising, do you think history would have remembered him? If Jinnah had taken Ghandhi’s offer to become the first Prime minister of united India, do you think he would have achieved the same status in history?
    Great Leaders do the right thing all the time and no one ever said that the right thing was the easiest thing to do.

    My flame-thrower would be the first of hopefully many millions of flame-throwers directed towards those who violate my basic human right to be free.
    Now go Grab your flame-thrower my friend :-)


  11. dungar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 11:34 am

    But I think you are not following my point.

    Ok here I will try to rephrase:

    What if 160 millions ARE the volcano against the teeny meeny elite who has been raping this country for the past 60 years? Don’t you agree the current situation is a result of incapable rulers?

    And I know majority of the elite will take a flight while instigating others to grab their flame-throwers, like you are doing here. And rest of Pakistan will burn. The instability will result in a war between India and Pakistan. And both countries going up in nuclear smoke.

    You are crazy.

    My solution: I demand CJP reinstated without delay. Thats the only way to go.


  12. Harris (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 11:54 am

    Dungar,

    Unfortunately for us it was our rulers who have gotten us to this point. Majority of the 160 million people in our country will live their pathetic lives regardless of what goes on in Islamabad.

    There is a difference between the educated class and the ruler class in our country. Don’t forget that many of the founders of Pakistan movement(Jinnah, Aga Khan, Liaquat Ali, Nishtar) belonged to the elite class. The poor people didn’t dream of Pakistan but they did buy into the dream of these elites who wanted to safeguard the rights of Muslims in the post colonial India.

    So my friend call me crazy all you want but one thing you must agree with, someone has to stand in front of the tank to save many. If I can not do anything more than voice my opinion on this issue then that is what I will do and keep on doing because I know it is the right thing to do.


  13. Dungar (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 12:22 pm

    Unfortunately for us it was our rulers who have gotten us to this point.

    And you think the govtis clever enough as to control the situation afterwards. History tells otherwise.

    When other nations cool down and concentrate in times of crisis, we on the other hand reach out for our flame throwers and think later.

    You are crazy, I am crazy, infact we are all crazy.


  14. karachiite (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 3:34 pm

    It’s disconcerting to read highly educated people presenting solutions to problems by proposing the killing of the other group. Kill the Bengalis, kill the mullahs, kill the Baluchis, kill this person, kill that person, kill, kill, kill. This is a very typical Pakistani reaction to every problem and then we lament about why we have so many problems.

    Why not say: “lets arrest the criminals and try them in a court of law and punish them?”


  15. ME (unregistered) on April 7th, 2007 @ 10:20 pm

    Parallel super-Islamic government formally established and with that all problems of Pakistan will end, just as the fog disappears with sunrise. Quid’s dream finally came alive.

    Finally the Ummah will have the chance to be entertained every Friday with the floggings, stoning of Burqua-clad women, beheading of men, and sundry other goodies.

    And from time to time the Jihadi’s head will be staring with its lifeless eyes as the curious crowds converge at the site of a martyrdom.
    His dismembered limbs will be collected as souvenirs by the Ummah.


  16. dungar (unregistered) on April 8th, 2007 @ 2:20 am

    Why not say: “lets arrest the criminals and try them in a court of law and punish them?”

    And you need free courts to achieve that. Do you have them?

    For the proponents of the action against lal masjid. Mark my words, the whole country is like a fuel depot. One spark and…………..booom.

    Why you presume other factions besides mullahs will not jump in?

    So I will ask them to calm down, lets think of another way. Maybe reinstating the CJ will improve the situation.


  17. qurrat-tul-ain (unregistered) on April 8th, 2007 @ 8:33 am

    when i was driving in front of lal masjid they stop my car and warned me that this is unislamic and they also note my name and car number what is this i was going to my job.i wonder why government is not taking action.


  18. WK (unregistered) on April 8th, 2007 @ 11:57 am

    RELAX YA ALL,

    How about lets think my (Govt) way,
    Option ONE:
    for those people who are against those relegious people:

    Tell to all of your people that get some nice “Mujra DVDs” and watch some fat naked ladies with weardo songs with your family OR watch TV channel APNA you will get all what you need.

    Otherwise watch GEO or ARY channel and try to find “ORION pehly Chahet” eemmm or may be “Rates hum ko kum melain (Telenor)”, these advertisements are creating thoughts in TEENS that lets do some adventures the word call S E X, when they wont find easily what is the option well its easy lets GRAB one e.g last week in Lahore 16 years Old Raped by seven boys in the Park. One small 11 years old boy found dead in the Bus Faislabad, what happend to that boy, how he died, after investigation Police said some one RAPED him during raped he passed. (OH Poor Boy!

    How about Aunty Rouby’s Business in ISB, hey people its a nice business lets start it from your home, I am talking about (SEX for Sale)its not only one Autny now a days in every street there is one Aunty Live who do this stuff….

    Let talk about street crime, I was in RWP for a while in Commercial Market busy place yeah, two bikers came and hit the girl from back while the girl was walking on road may be coming from school or tution any way after hitting her hard they snatched her bag and Woooooooossshhh wanished, the poor girl laying on road crys hard with pain in back ” what the Hell that was happend ” ?

    in my openion few adventures teens wants to have some fun ha ha ha, NO totally wrong they all have learned from our Media and who gave the media litle permission well you all know it. Oh gosh those boys looks like all educated the ones who raped the girl or the ones who snatched the bag, where is the problem?

    Oh I guess those Some so called Mullahs trying to correct some things, I think 75% are MBBS, PHD, Docters and well educated peoples.

    Option TWO:
    For those who are in the favour of relegious people, One fine line for them ” Do not create your own Govt or courts while already one is in motion”! its simple that they need to coordinate with Govt and try to fix these problems.

    We all know what is wrong, where is wrong, why is wrong.

    One final word from me ” PEACE ” !

    WK


  19. karachiite (unregistered) on April 8th, 2007 @ 12:08 pm

    Pleasssse don’t mention fat naked ladies dancing. I saw one by mistake on youTube and I’m still trying to get the image out of my mind. uck.


  20. Harris (unregistered) on April 8th, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

    WK,
    Isn’t it amazing that the ignorant Mullahs always go after “Fuhashi” and “Sharab”. No mullah in the history of Pakistan ever laid down a plan or even gave a speech regarding illiteracy, human rights, women’s education, health policy, child labor, rights of minority, industrial revolution etc etc etc.

    If Pakistani people think that a cell phone ad is a bigger problem than inflation or trade deficit then I guess Pakistan deserves these idiots as leaders.


  21. Concerned (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 5:20 am

    Harris are you for real? I have a suspicion you are diverting the issues as it pleases you.

    The same kind of sickness I noted was amongst poeple who have directly or indrectly benefitted from the various kinds of corruptions crimes drug dealings etc in our country.

    They go maniac when they have the slightest doubt that justice might previal and they have to answer for their crimes.

    So are your rants are resulting from your insceurity that criminal minds feel? Because you strech things toooooooo much.


  22. JahanAra (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 8:35 am

    I agree with Harris. The Mullahs are only concerned about women and “fahashi”. They could care less about social development. Have you ever seen a Mullah protesting about literacy, clean drinking water, or health?


  23. Harris (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 10:39 am

    Concerned,
    Your comments above only proved your ignorance. Your suspicions about me being insecure can not be any further from the truth. I stated a fact that the Ignorant and jahil mullahs are only interested in Fuhashi and Sharab in response to WK’s comments.

    Prove me wrong and post the plan laid out by any mullah in Pakistan that deals with the issues I mentioned above.


  24. 1967 (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 10:50 am

    Well here comes the first blow: A fatwa has already been issued against the federal tourism minister

    http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/09/top2.htm


  25. WK (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 6:50 pm

    JahanAra,

    Can you explain me whats the meaning of Social?

    Well if we all stay in our boundries all will go well and the system will run smoothly.

    Seriously we need to give little freedom to our women and some how Mushu Pa gee has reached to 60% sucessful …

    e.g now we have lady pilots, police, commandos, guards, more doctors etc…

    But the Freedom means NOT “Create Aunties Business” in our culture or Females start wearing tight geans with showing some meat with it ewwwww ! & on top they said that we are Muslims eeemmm I think we are on mistake.

    Remember The word ” boundries ” !

    Peace


  26. jahanara (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 9:21 pm

    WK, Social development means health, education and poverty alleviation. If one is against Mullahism, that does not mean that one supports prostitution. Please do not equate the two. We have to discuss these issues rationally and without labeling anyone.
    Social Development, besides the tangible variables above, also means having a society where there is access to justice, human rights, and most importantly freedom of thought and opinion. In my opinion, the Mullahs want to deprive us, particularly women, of our freedom of thought.


  27. Mushtaq (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 11:25 pm

    We always had political dalaals (dullaay in Punjabi) like shujaat and others who always manage to get the business deals done between the religious pr0stitutes (muzhabee rund1an) and their customers (gahuk) the army and america and still these molvis have the cheek to complain of Aunti Shameem who has neither sold Pakistan nor Islam.

    If someone can express this more eloquently I would appreciate that.


  28. Mushtaq (unregistered) on April 9th, 2007 @ 11:49 pm

    Jamia Hufsa is proving too extremist even for doebundis;

    جامعہ حفصہ مدارس بورڈ سے خارج

    دیو بند مکتبِ فکر کے مدارس کے بورڈ ‘وفاق المدارس العربیہ پاکستان’ نے اسلام آباد کے زبردستی شریعت نافذ کرنے والے دو مدارس کو اپنے بورڈ سے نکال دیا ہے۔

    (http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2007/04/070409_hafsa_ousted_sq.shtml)


  29. redsnapper (unregistered) on April 10th, 2007 @ 3:58 am

    WK: “But the Freedom means …… I think we are on mistake.”

    Look at it this way. Why do the so-called ulema want to stop only the women ? Does it mean that they think men are so weak they can’t resist having wild thoughts ? Or do think its men’s RIGHT to have wild thoughts ?

    HARRIS’ and JEHANARA’S question is very pertinent. What do the so-called ulema do about literacy, health etc. ? Any fatwas for free healthcare ? Never.

    The best they can do is use the weekness of the system to create their own fiefdoms in madrassahs with Saudi money. To me, they are no different than anyone else.

    In any case, with only a kilometers distance from ISI headquarters, it is not possible they don’t have an influence on these affairs. If this org can control madressahs thousands of miles away, what made them overlook this one.

    Isn’t this all about the chief justice ?


  30. Harris (unregistered) on April 10th, 2007 @ 11:22 am

    Redsnapper,
    ISI knew what was going on in Lal masjid. Their 4 star Khalifa Zia Ul Haq appointed the father of these idiots the Imam of Lal Masjid and gave him land for Jamia Faridia.
    This is all Zia’s doing that the country will pay for generations.


  31. SIMA (unregistered) on April 11th, 2007 @ 10:24 am

    This Mullah’s issue getting more worse day by day so there should be a prescription for them but no one taking any action against them if you think that why do our government not taking an action against them? This is what we have to think, our government just making people fuckin and reallize the Amrica bahadur that only they are their loyal like a dog. Any one can check last 8 years ‘ damn army government history’ every time they are taking fucking decisoin against pakistani people and killing them and making their Fathers in ‘Used Ss Aey’ happy. These mullah’s are just ‘chess mohray’ and nothing, they are just providing the smooth way to our fuckin government to make their plan successful to have their Ass on seat for 5 years more.
    No one thinking about my pakistani people, they are just making them more weeker and poor so that they can fulfill their fuckin dreams come true.
    I know, my words are so hard but when i think about my pak i got emmmmmm? all of our polititions, our government and mullahs’re dragging pak into the worst danger situation ever. And when there is something wrong these basttered will run away to their bullshit fathers to escap themselves like GEN YAH haram……..
    Means there is no solution at this time because we only can think that there are lots of solutions but i will say only one thing…. no solution will work ever either you take action on it.
    So, I PREY TO ALLAH….. MAKE PAKISTANI PEOPLE AND ALL MUSLIMS ON THE EARTH STRONGER. WE JUST NEED TO TAKE HELP FROM OUR HOLY BOOK QURAN AND HADITH AND FOLLOW OUR PROPHET’S (PBUH) WAY. DEFINATELY WE WILL GET THE RESULT POSITIVE.


  32. Harris (unregistered) on April 12th, 2007 @ 2:45 am

    The system has failed the poor people of Pakistan and as a result we have the extremest elements gaining strenght from the frustration of people.

    Mullahism should have been eliminated at the very first outbreak but instead it was supported and encouraged by Zia and now the Pakistani people have to deal with this monster.


  33. Ghalia Aymen (unregistered) on April 13th, 2007 @ 8:40 pm

    unofficial news: government is not taking any step to stop such tyranny is because they do not want to lose any of the vote in coming elections. They want to rule but does not want to serve. Resources say that everyhing will be fine once we have the satisfaction that we will win in coming elections.

    if they take any step now against molvis(p:s use the word molvi do not insult the meaning of mullah) there are chances that public, who have faith on such mullah,might go against the government and vote against them.

    so the whole thing is that “kai bahya sub sai bari kursi”.



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