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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/23/another-action-by-the-red-mosque-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3630</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Aziz has tried to slip away in a burqa...

I wonder why he and, moreover, his entrenched gang of thugs, seem unmoved by their prophet Muhammad&#039;s injunction in the Quran that &quot;cursed are those men that wear women&#039;s clothing and those women that wear men&#039;s clothing&quot;. If they truly adhere to their insipid religiosity, surely they are duty-bound to stone Aziz to death, or some such.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Aziz has tried to slip away in a burqa&#8230;</p>
<p>I wonder why he and, moreover, his entrenched gang of thugs, seem unmoved by their prophet Muhammad&#8217;s injunction in the Quran that &#8220;cursed are those men that wear women&#8217;s clothing and those women that wear men&#8217;s clothing&#8221;. If they truly adhere to their insipid religiosity, surely they are duty-bound to stone Aziz to death, or some such.</p>
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		<title>By: Fifi</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/23/another-action-by-the-red-mosque-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3629</link>
		<dc:creator>Fifi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, it&#039;s very sad to see that any one can do any thing whithout any fear, the so called red mosque students are behaving like they are living in jungle. Is there any kind of law to keep these people in control, if they are backed by agencies then...........These kind of activites will put off foreign investors to do any investments in our country.......It&#039;s government&#039;s responsibility to run the city not these students....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, it&#8217;s very sad to see that any one can do any thing whithout any fear, the so called red mosque students are behaving like they are living in jungle. Is there any kind of law to keep these people in control, if they are backed by agencies then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..These kind of activites will put off foreign investors to do any investments in our country&#8230;&#8230;.It&#8217;s government&#8217;s responsibility to run the city not these students&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fifi</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/23/another-action-by-the-red-mosque-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3628</link>
		<dc:creator>Fifi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, it&#039;s very sad to see that any one can do any thing whithout any fear, the so called red mosque students are behaving like they are living in jungle. Is there any kind of law to keep these people in control, if they are backed by agencies then...........These kind of activites will put off many more foreign investors to do any investments in our country.......It&#039;s government&#039;s responsibility to run the city not these students....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, it&#8217;s very sad to see that any one can do any thing whithout any fear, the so called red mosque students are behaving like they are living in jungle. Is there any kind of law to keep these people in control, if they are backed by agencies then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..These kind of activites will put off many more foreign investors to do any investments in our country&#8230;&#8230;.It&#8217;s government&#8217;s responsibility to run the city not these students&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fifi</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/23/another-action-by-the-red-mosque-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3627</link>
		<dc:creator>Fifi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, it&#039;s very sad to see that any one can do any thing whithout any fear, the so called red mosque students are behaving like they are living in jungle. Is there any kind of law to keep these people in control, if they are backed by agencies then...........These kind of activites will put off many more foreign investors to do any investments in our country.......It&#039;s government&#039;s responsibility to run the city not these students....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, it&#8217;s very sad to see that any one can do any thing whithout any fear, the so called red mosque students are behaving like they are living in jungle. Is there any kind of law to keep these people in control, if they are backed by agencies then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..These kind of activites will put off many more foreign investors to do any investments in our country&#8230;&#8230;.It&#8217;s government&#8217;s responsibility to run the city not these students&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: 1967</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/23/another-action-by-the-red-mosque-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3626</link>
		<dc:creator>1967</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massage centre abductees were from MMA:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=8696&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=8696&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massage centre abductees were from MMA:<br />
<a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=8696" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=8696</a></p>
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		<title>By: WK</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/23/another-action-by-the-red-mosque-students/comment-page-1/#comment-3625</link>
		<dc:creator>WK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jayjay,

My advice for you keep yourself always as positive, I am not saying that you are totally negative, I also agreed with you on some of things such as women held for extended lenghts and being treated bad so forth...

Its very easy to say or point finger on Mosque &quot;Allahs House&quot; quoting your words 

&quot;I am glad not all men and women are religious. Otherwise, whole of Islamabad would have turned into a grand vigilante station, aka Lal Masjid, buring witches at the stake. 

you can easily quote Mark Twain ! 

But I tell you that Mr. Jayjay please do not point Lal Masjid or any other Mosque because it can easily offend any muslim.

Now PEace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayjay,</p>
<p>My advice for you keep yourself always as positive, I am not saying that you are totally negative, I also agreed with you on some of things such as women held for extended lenghts and being treated bad so forth&#8230;</p>
<p>Its very easy to say or point finger on Mosque &#8220;Allahs House&#8221; quoting your words </p>
<p>&#8220;I am glad not all men and women are religious. Otherwise, whole of Islamabad would have turned into a grand vigilante station, aka Lal Masjid, buring witches at the stake. </p>
<p>you can easily quote Mark Twain ! </p>
<p>But I tell you that Mr. Jayjay please do not point Lal Masjid or any other Mosque because it can easily offend any muslim.</p>
<p>Now PEace</p>
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		<title>By: JayJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Twain was right when he said,&quot; Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion, in fact several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbour as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn&#039;t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother&#039;s path to happiness and heaven.&quot;

I am glad not all men and women are religious. Otherwise, whole of Islamabad would have turned into a grand vigilante station, aka Lal Masjid, buring witches at the stake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Twain was right when he said,&#8221; Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion, in fact several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbour as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn&#8217;t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother&#8217;s path to happiness and heaven.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am glad not all men and women are religious. Otherwise, whole of Islamabad would have turned into a grand vigilante station, aka Lal Masjid, buring witches at the stake.</p>
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		<title>By: Afzal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afzal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brothers!

lets not be bookish about what is happening and start to realize the bitter facts looming around our country. Its very easy to say not to take the law into our hands, a totally different opinion when someone has been a victim of that limping law. Following are some reported examples to open up your eyes:

Short of conviction, women have also been held for extended lengths of time on charges of zina when they allege rape (Asia Watch 1992, 41-60). For example, in July, 1992, Shamim, a twenty-one-year-old mother of two charged that she was kidnaped and raped by three men in Karachi. When a rape complaint was lodged against the perpetrators, the police instead arrested Shamim, and charged her with zina when her family could not post the fee set for her release. The police held her in custody for six days, during which she reports that she was repeatedly raped by two police officers and a third unnamed person (Amnesty International 1993, 11-12). There have been numerous reports of such custodial rapes in Pakistan.6

Police action and inaction in rape cases in Pakistan have in fact been widely reported as an instrumental element to the injustice. There is evidence that police have deliberately failed to file charges against men accused of rape, often using the threat of converting the rape charge into a zina prosecution against the female complainant to discourage women from reporting.7 And when the perpetrator is a police officer himself, the chances of pursuing a case against him are nearly nonexistent. Shahida Parveen faced this very situation when she reported that in July, 1994, two police officers broke into her house and locked her children in a room while they raped her at gunpoint. A medical examination confirmed that she was raped by more than one person, but the police refused to register her complaint (Amnesty International 1995, 14).

Political rivals have further exploited women by using rape as a weapon against each other. In November, 1992, Khursheed Begum, the wife of an arrested member of the Pakistan People&#039;s Party was abducted on her way home from attending her husband&#039;s court hearing. She states that she was blindfolded, driven to a police station, and repeatedly raped there by police officers, who asserted political motives for the attack (Amnesty International 1992, 207; Scroggins, 1992, A10; Rashid 1991, 14.). Later the same month, forty-year-old Veena Hyat, of one of Pakistan&#039;s elite families and daughter of a prominent politician, stated that she was gang raped for twelve hours in every room of her house by five armed men. Despite her father taking the unusual social risk of publicly reporting the attack, a judicial investigation concluded that there was insufficient evidence to convict the alleged perpetrators (Zia 1994, 55-57; Economist 1991, 43; Rashid 1991, 14; Robinson 1992, 11).


So next time you pass comments on the Law of this country, try putting yourself into the shoe of those who got dented by the so called LAW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brothers!</p>
<p>lets not be bookish about what is happening and start to realize the bitter facts looming around our country. Its very easy to say not to take the law into our hands, a totally different opinion when someone has been a victim of that limping law. Following are some reported examples to open up your eyes:</p>
<p>Short of conviction, women have also been held for extended lengths of time on charges of zina when they allege rape (Asia Watch 1992, 41-60). For example, in July, 1992, Shamim, a twenty-one-year-old mother of two charged that she was kidnaped and raped by three men in Karachi. When a rape complaint was lodged against the perpetrators, the police instead arrested Shamim, and charged her with zina when her family could not post the fee set for her release. The police held her in custody for six days, during which she reports that she was repeatedly raped by two police officers and a third unnamed person (Amnesty International 1993, 11-12). There have been numerous reports of such custodial rapes in Pakistan.6</p>
<p>Police action and inaction in rape cases in Pakistan have in fact been widely reported as an instrumental element to the injustice. There is evidence that police have deliberately failed to file charges against men accused of rape, often using the threat of converting the rape charge into a zina prosecution against the female complainant to discourage women from reporting.7 And when the perpetrator is a police officer himself, the chances of pursuing a case against him are nearly nonexistent. Shahida Parveen faced this very situation when she reported that in July, 1994, two police officers broke into her house and locked her children in a room while they raped her at gunpoint. A medical examination confirmed that she was raped by more than one person, but the police refused to register her complaint (Amnesty International 1995, 14).</p>
<p>Political rivals have further exploited women by using rape as a weapon against each other. In November, 1992, Khursheed Begum, the wife of an arrested member of the Pakistan People&#8217;s Party was abducted on her way home from attending her husband&#8217;s court hearing. She states that she was blindfolded, driven to a police station, and repeatedly raped there by police officers, who asserted political motives for the attack (Amnesty International 1992, 207; Scroggins, 1992, A10; Rashid 1991, 14.). Later the same month, forty-year-old Veena Hyat, of one of Pakistan&#8217;s elite families and daughter of a prominent politician, stated that she was gang raped for twelve hours in every room of her house by five armed men. Despite her father taking the unusual social risk of publicly reporting the attack, a judicial investigation concluded that there was insufficient evidence to convict the alleged perpetrators (Zia 1994, 55-57; Economist 1991, 43; Rashid 1991, 14; Robinson 1992, 11).</p>
<p>So next time you pass comments on the Law of this country, try putting yourself into the shoe of those who got dented by the so called LAW!</p>
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		<title>By: JEHANARA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JEHANARA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need 4 witnesses to prove rape, but in the case of Lal Masjid, the word of that nutcase Mullah is enough? For God&#039;s sake, this is not Islam, and if it is, then forgive me, but I dont want any part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need 4 witnesses to prove rape, but in the case of Lal Masjid, the word of that nutcase Mullah is enough? For God&#8217;s sake, this is not Islam, and if it is, then forgive me, but I dont want any part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Majid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Majid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou Zam, that about sums it up. Make your choice and be happy. 
Who said Pakistanis cannot take the law into thier own hands!! Humbug... that happens every day with Kabzaa groups all over PK. What about FATA? they get to make thier OWN dodgy laws. Or what about the Village courts where Mukhtar Mai received her judgments?.... that argument is a non-starter.
So I agree that something needs to be done about brothels if the police wont do anything then its going to be left to ordinary people to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou Zam, that about sums it up. Make your choice and be happy.<br />
Who said Pakistanis cannot take the law into thier own hands!! Humbug&#8230; that happens every day with Kabzaa groups all over PK. What about FATA? they get to make thier OWN dodgy laws. Or what about the Village courts where Mukhtar Mai received her judgments?&#8230;. that argument is a non-starter.<br />
So I agree that something needs to be done about brothels if the police wont do anything then its going to be left to ordinary people to do.</p>
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