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		<title>By: redsnapper</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/24/cat-house-or-fishy-house/comment-page-1/#comment-3646</link>
		<dc:creator>redsnapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Pineapple: What a story. 

If you were outside Islamabad club and didn&#039;t know what it was, you will take 15 minutes and create a similar story !! 

your description of Isb club might have things like .... My, my, people in tinted glass cars, some women, some men, a seeming cover of sports and food ... oh, a woman smiled ... something sinister cooking. Is it Islamabad club ? Nah, cant be. Really a fishy setup over acres of land.

Get real.

And WK: hats off to your extensive study of religion, sociology and law. You must be teaching somewhere ?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Pineapple: What a story. </p>
<p>If you were outside Islamabad club and didn&#8217;t know what it was, you will take 15 minutes and create a similar story !! </p>
<p>your description of Isb club might have things like &#8230;. My, my, people in tinted glass cars, some women, some men, a seeming cover of sports and food &#8230; oh, a woman smiled &#8230; something sinister cooking. Is it Islamabad club ? Nah, cant be. Really a fishy setup over acres of land.</p>
<p>Get real.</p>
<p>And WK: hats off to your extensive study of religion, sociology and law. You must be teaching somewhere ?</p>
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		<title>By: WK</title>
		<link>http://islamabad.metblogs.com/2007/06/24/cat-house-or-fishy-house/comment-page-1/#comment-3645</link>
		<dc:creator>WK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jayjay,

You are again quoting Mark Twain which is okay here, But seriously I do not get your saying 
&quot; I am glad not all men and women are religious &quot;?

I am copying a little from this website, this is not just for you so do not get ffended.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_Sayings.htm#Index&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_Sayings.htm#Index&lt;/a&gt;

The Quran and Sayings of Prophet Muhammad PBUH

&quot;There are three roots to Iman (Faith): not to trouble him who shall say &#039;there is no diety but God;&#039; not to think him an unbeliever on account of one fault; and not to discard him for one crime. 

 He is not a good Mumin who committeth adultery or getteth drunk, who stealeth,or plundereth, or who embezzleth; beware, beware. 

 When asked to mention one of the most excellent parts of Iman (Faith) Muhammad said, &quot;To love him who loveth God, and hate him who hateth God, and to keep your tongue employed in repeating the name of God.&quot; What else? He said, &quot;To do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you, and to reject for others what you would reject for yourself.&quot; 

 He who progresseth daily is yet far off from the Ideal. 

 When you speak, speak the truth; perform when you promise; discharge your trust; commit not fornication; be chaste; have no impure desires; withold your hands from striking, and from taking that which is unlawful or evil. The best of God&#039;s servants are those who, when seen, remind of God; and the worst of God&#039;s servants are those who carry tales about to do mischief and separate friends, and seek for the defects of the good. 

 He who believeth in one God and the Hereafter, let him speak what is good or remain silent. 

 He who believeth in one God and the life beyond, let him not injure his neighbors. 

 Speak to men according to their mental capacities, for if you speak all things to all men, some cannot understand you, and so fall into errors.&quot; 


NOW PEACE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jayjay,</p>
<p>You are again quoting Mark Twain which is okay here, But seriously I do not get your saying<br />
&#8221; I am glad not all men and women are religious &#8220;?</p>
<p>I am copying a little from this website, this is not just for you so do not get ffended.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_Sayings.htm#Index" rel="nofollow">http://www.themodernreligion.com/prophet/prophet_Sayings.htm#Index</a></p>
<p>The Quran and Sayings of Prophet Muhammad PBUH</p>
<p>&#8220;There are three roots to Iman (Faith): not to trouble him who shall say &#8216;there is no diety but God;&#8217; not to think him an unbeliever on account of one fault; and not to discard him for one crime. </p>
<p> He is not a good Mumin who committeth adultery or getteth drunk, who stealeth,or plundereth, or who embezzleth; beware, beware. </p>
<p> When asked to mention one of the most excellent parts of Iman (Faith) Muhammad said, &#8220;To love him who loveth God, and hate him who hateth God, and to keep your tongue employed in repeating the name of God.&#8221; What else? He said, &#8220;To do unto all men as you would wish to have done unto you, and to reject for others what you would reject for yourself.&#8221; </p>
<p> He who progresseth daily is yet far off from the Ideal. </p>
<p> When you speak, speak the truth; perform when you promise; discharge your trust; commit not fornication; be chaste; have no impure desires; withold your hands from striking, and from taking that which is unlawful or evil. The best of God&#8217;s servants are those who, when seen, remind of God; and the worst of God&#8217;s servants are those who carry tales about to do mischief and separate friends, and seek for the defects of the good. </p>
<p> He who believeth in one God and the Hereafter, let him speak what is good or remain silent. </p>
<p> He who believeth in one God and the life beyond, let him not injure his neighbors. </p>
<p> Speak to men according to their mental capacities, for if you speak all things to all men, some cannot understand you, and so fall into errors.&#8221; </p>
<p>NOW PEACE.</p>
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		<title>By: wk</title>
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		<dc:creator>wk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hassan,

I 100% agreed with you !

if mans stop going towerds them ,,, this can be stop easily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hassan,</p>
<p>I 100% agreed with you !</p>
<p>if mans stop going towerds them ,,, this can be stop easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Hassan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WK, aunties aren&#039;t the cancer. The clientele is, if there was no one to go to the &quot;aunties&quot;, there business would die out. Stop the men who go there, and you give the women no reason to continue with their trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WK, aunties aren&#8217;t the cancer. The clientele is, if there was no one to go to the &#8220;aunties&#8221;, there business would die out. Stop the men who go there, and you give the women no reason to continue with their trade.</p>
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		<title>By: JayJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Twain was right when he said,&quot; Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion, in fact several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbour as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn&#039;t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother&#039;s path to happiness and heaven.&quot;

I am glad not all men and women are religious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Twain was right when he said,&#8221; Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion, in fact several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbour as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn&#8217;t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother&#8217;s path to happiness and heaven.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am glad not all men and women are religious.</p>
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		<title>By: JayJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A4[Pine]Apple: It is a disappointing post.  You have tried to sensationalize an absolute non-issue, not to mention your atrocious writing style [I am using the word too loosely here - it will be good if you go back to posting pictures form newspapers with minimum captions and pretending they are posts].  

Prying into the privacy of ones&#039; neighbours is considered an uncivilized act in all societies, no matter what is the motivation.  You went a step further by publishing your &quot;findings&quot; in a completely slanted way, with an absolute conviction, without presenting an iota of facts to support you concoction.  If you had felt so strongly about Cat House, you should have reported it to authorities. By assuming yourself the status of the police, judge and jury, I am afraid you are treading the path of the mullahs of Lal Masjid and their protégé niqabi girls.  Next we will see you with a gun or at least a danda in your hand banging on your neighbour&#039;s gate.   

WK: There is a difference between a sin and a crime.  A state&#039;s responsibility is to check the crime, not sins, and bringing the perpetrator to justice [I agree that our State need to pick up its game as it has been fast loosing its grip over the affairs but it does not give anyone a justification to resort to mullah-gardy]. However, it is not a State&#039;s responsibility to meddle in the private lives of its citizens for controlling sins. Sins, vary from a faith to faith, and they are a matter between a man and his god, not between the man and his neighbours or citizens.  You and I, mere mortals, are not in a position to judge [or punish] anyone for their lack of piety or reward them for piety.  Don&#039;t they say: &quot;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone&quot;.  Policing morality gets you the Talibans.  Morality is something which comes from within, through ones&#039; conscience, not by policing or vigilantism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A4[Pine]Apple: It is a disappointing post.  You have tried to sensationalize an absolute non-issue, not to mention your atrocious writing style [I am using the word too loosely here - it will be good if you go back to posting pictures form newspapers with minimum captions and pretending they are posts].  </p>
<p>Prying into the privacy of ones&#8217; neighbours is considered an uncivilized act in all societies, no matter what is the motivation.  You went a step further by publishing your &#8220;findings&#8221; in a completely slanted way, with an absolute conviction, without presenting an iota of facts to support you concoction.  If you had felt so strongly about Cat House, you should have reported it to authorities. By assuming yourself the status of the police, judge and jury, I am afraid you are treading the path of the mullahs of Lal Masjid and their protégé niqabi girls.  Next we will see you with a gun or at least a danda in your hand banging on your neighbour&#8217;s gate.   </p>
<p>WK: There is a difference between a sin and a crime.  A state&#8217;s responsibility is to check the crime, not sins, and bringing the perpetrator to justice [I agree that our State need to pick up its game as it has been fast loosing its grip over the affairs but it does not give anyone a justification to resort to mullah-gardy]. However, it is not a State&#8217;s responsibility to meddle in the private lives of its citizens for controlling sins. Sins, vary from a faith to faith, and they are a matter between a man and his god, not between the man and his neighbours or citizens.  You and I, mere mortals, are not in a position to judge [or punish] anyone for their lack of piety or reward them for piety.  Don&#8217;t they say: &#8220;Let he who is without sin cast the first stone&#8221;.  Policing morality gets you the Talibans.  Morality is something which comes from within, through ones&#8217; conscience, not by policing or vigilantism.</p>
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		<title>By: WK</title>
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		<dc:creator>WK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Phil,

you have asked that what I have done to get rid of this evil...

here is what I am doing not to interact in any kind of activities such as drinking, club dance or any kind of such events where boys and girls can have do some negative acts.

Seceondly I am here on metro Isb trying to explain you that what you are saying &quot; I am not agree with it&quot; , and I guess that is my right that I can disagree with you Correct ?

Well try to see inside you I am quoting your words that &quot; it was me who was totally involved in that crime&quot; 

Here I am agreed with you 100%, but I tried to stop all of them forcely, and on top I never done that act what they did. 

So impliment the same formula on you and try to see inside you that how much you are involved 
(pushing others towerds the path which takes them into hell) negative thoughts in current argument.

I would like also give answer that you wrote that our Being muslim is a myth, here is the simple answer. Simply start loving Allah the only one creator of all universe, and when you in love with someone you will obey his commands,

AGREED?

Do not get offend. I would like to hear more from you.

Hello MH:

I am not always blaming to aunties, there are lots of cancers in our country these kind of aunties are one of them. 

Sorry MH if I hurt your feeling as well.

TC



Till that time TC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Phil,</p>
<p>you have asked that what I have done to get rid of this evil&#8230;</p>
<p>here is what I am doing not to interact in any kind of activities such as drinking, club dance or any kind of such events where boys and girls can have do some negative acts.</p>
<p>Seceondly I am here on metro Isb trying to explain you that what you are saying &#8221; I am not agree with it&#8221; , and I guess that is my right that I can disagree with you Correct ?</p>
<p>Well try to see inside you I am quoting your words that &#8221; it was me who was totally involved in that crime&#8221; </p>
<p>Here I am agreed with you 100%, but I tried to stop all of them forcely, and on top I never done that act what they did. </p>
<p>So impliment the same formula on you and try to see inside you that how much you are involved<br />
(pushing others towerds the path which takes them into hell) negative thoughts in current argument.</p>
<p>I would like also give answer that you wrote that our Being muslim is a myth, here is the simple answer. Simply start loving Allah the only one creator of all universe, and when you in love with someone you will obey his commands,</p>
<p>AGREED?</p>
<p>Do not get offend. I would like to hear more from you.</p>
<p>Hello MH:</p>
<p>I am not always blaming to aunties, there are lots of cancers in our country these kind of aunties are one of them. </p>
<p>Sorry MH if I hurt your feeling as well.</p>
<p>TC</p>
<p>Till that time TC</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 03:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Mr. WK, did you do anything to get rid of this evil. Enlighten us on that instead of your sexcapades.

Our being Muslims is a myth, friend!

I am in full agreement with MH and I would reiterate what they said by saying it was &#039;you who was tempted by the devil to walk that path, WK, it is you who is equally involved in the crime/sin/whatever.&#039;

No hard feelings but try to correct yourselves and others will follow suit (sp?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Mr. WK, did you do anything to get rid of this evil. Enlighten us on that instead of your sexcapades.</p>
<p>Our being Muslims is a myth, friend!</p>
<p>I am in full agreement with MH and I would reiterate what they said by saying it was &#8216;you who was tempted by the devil to walk that path, WK, it is you who is equally involved in the crime/sin/whatever.&#8217;</p>
<p>No hard feelings but try to correct yourselves and others will follow suit (sp?).</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops...I mean why are the &#039;aunties&#039; the only ones to be blamed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230;I mean why are the &#8216;aunties&#8217; the only ones to be blamed?</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WK, I fail to understand why are the &#039;aunties&#039; the one to be blamed?

Don&#039;t your friends share the blame equally for &#039;hiring&#039; them? After all, they are a whole part of the business as well.

Its sad, that Islam the way we practice is more aimed at controlling women. Maybe we should focus more on correcting our own faults before targetting the wider society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WK, I fail to understand why are the &#8216;aunties&#8217; the one to be blamed?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t your friends share the blame equally for &#8216;hiring&#8217; them? After all, they are a whole part of the business as well.</p>
<p>Its sad, that Islam the way we practice is more aimed at controlling women. Maybe we should focus more on correcting our own faults before targetting the wider society.</p>
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