The Siege of Lal Masjid: Day 6 of Operation Silence

LiveBlog documenting Day 6 of the crack down on Lal Masjid in Islamabad. Keep posting your Comments. You can read another of our earlier posts about Operation Silence (Days 1-3, Day 4, and Day 5) on Lal Masjid!

Dear Readers, while this highly controversial issue has engulfed us all and a lot of emotion, sentiment, and passion is involved, please refrain from deluging the comments area with personal slander and allusive slurs, Thanks a lot.

IMB Team


9th July 10:25 PM
An awesome Ayaath from Surrah Tauba (9) was shared on PTV:

http://islamabad.metblogs.com/archives/images/2007/07/Tauba%209-107-thumb.JPG
Have a read at the translation if not the Arabic.

9th July 9:22 PM
So a lot happened in the last 24 hours, but I am sorry that we could not keep this updated as life has to go on. Your comments and emotions tell me that we still have conscience.

From UAVs to more sporadic firing to Ulema and Politicians along with renowned social workers heading to the Lal Masjid to make a final plea to Maulana Sahib to let the authorities in and let go of the children and women inside, there still seems to be some stalemate between the two sides. And yes, not to forget the rotting corpses inside! God! The inhumanity! What was left was for the District Session Judge to arrive at the scene and make a ‘request’ to the criminals inside to give up. I certainly hope these are the last formalities that the government is undertaking, this is way beyond challenging the writ of the government. Maulana Sahib come out!

Both the sides had agreed that they would be no further dialog, but it seems they are pussy-footing on both ends. The pro-government elements have a clear stance. Law and order, safety of children and women, and elderly as one has already committed suicide, and putting an end to the defamation of Islam, Mosques, and Muslims!

Innocents do not need to hide from the law, the LAW, as it was made, was made to protect the innocent, right Maulana Sahib? So here they are! Bad boys, bad boys, watchya gonna do?… and so on.

There have been reports from inside that they have already distributed 15 jackets amongst themselves. These are suicide jackets. Reverse creativity in Pakistan is very common, where nations try to prefect ‘life jackets’, these madmen have developed ‘suicide jackets’… When is the summer sale, God damn it!? One cannot stop short of recognizing this as a suicide cult.

Till any further development ladies and gentlemen, we wait and see, as this whole episode enters its 2nd week tomorrow while slowly eating away at any braincells that are left. Enjoy, with utter distaste I say!


9th July 2:00 AM
Backpacker reports:
Severe firing continues from the direction of Lal Masjid. Earlier two tall burqa clad women were arrested from the vicinity of Lal Masjid. Government reports confirm presence of some of the leading terrorists having links to Al- Qeeda in the premises of Lal Masjid.

July 9th 01:55 AM
Time for your blogger to hit the sack, inshAllah will update in the morning before rushing to my office. Lets hope a night attack is not planned, and every can get a good nights sleep. Thanos, Ahmed, Kami, Sarah, Analyst, Fauzan, Babar and all of you I didn’t mention, thanks again for some valuable discussion, but please try remaining within your limits. Allah Hafiz.

July 9th 01:30 AM
Immense emotion fills me up when I think of the people that have died on the either side of this conflict. While one being in the capacity of delivering pictures to the outside world, I take this time to say a little prayer for Lt. Col. Haroon Islam, a son of Lahore. His funeral was held yesterday in Chaklala. Thank you LMB :_(

July 9th 12:30 AM
There was a slight confusion about the days and dates of the Operation. The gun snatching incident took place on 3rd July, the operation began on the 4th, the hence it is the 6th day today. Anyways, that was a slight digression for a disambiguation.

Moving on, our valuable commenter Thanos and Ahmed report there some important aides of Mullah Omar have been caught in Pakistan,

An Afghan intelligence source told the BBC four senior associates of Mullah Omar were being held after operations by Pakistani security forces.

The arrests took place in two areas of the city of Quetta in western Pakistan.

While 3 Chinese foriegners have tragically been killed, or rather murdered by anti -state factions in Peshawar, while one managed to escape.

The women were accused by the mosque students of involvement in prostitution and were only freed after the authorities promised to shut down certain massage parlours in the capital.

Chinese workers have also been targeted in recent years by separatist militants in the western province of Balochistan.

Three Chinese engineers were shot dead in the province in February last year.

This is turning out to be really sad. Thanks for the updates guys.

90 Comments so far

  1. Analyst (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:15 am

    Some people don’t seem to speak against West or Americans openly because either one or more of their members are living in the West or their interests lies in travelling between West and East.

    In this case the relatives of such families are hostages in the so call free societies and such societies have made it hostage like situation for the immigrants of any country who stands against the atrocities by their new country they live in. In coming years we will see a huge immigration crisis in the history for Muslims, where they will be left stranded without human rights in the countries who are famous in given equal rights. Among such people in America are a very few people who are struggling for the better image of Islam, seem to compromise for the faith and belief they have been ordered by Islam to follow.

    Let me be honest. There are considerable number of people who are stepping back from the basic Islamic practices and refraining to perform them just because they want to live at some place peacefully.

    Now for those who were born in Pakistan and lived all their lives in Pakistan without whatsoever contact or interaction with the West seem to have inclination towards Western cultures and want to imitate them in any way possible. We can see ourselves copy the trends of west without differentiating between right and wrong.

    Such example of military action against the so called terrorists is a fine example of imitation of American media (after 911) at our Govt level. Media coverage being given to a dispute at domestic level is exaggerated to look like an international issue, just to get attention of USA,UK,China and other western nations.

    We all know that this “thought” which we have just started calling extremism that leads to terrorism, has protected our nation from invaders planning to defame our religion “Islam”. Iraq had a huge army, but why did they not defend till death. It is because they had lost faith in their leaders and surrendered at the end without a fight. Most of the Armies now a days are show piece but our Pakistan’s Army has the capability to fight till death and we trust in our leaders as well. We shouldn’t let these incidents defame our army. I think we should recruit all the Jahadi Movement leaders and warriors in the army as well and train them and make them civilized. Just like when a hacker is hired in FBI as he sabotage a system, or the water meant to destroy is stored in dams to get power.

    Western strategy planners (protectionists) know that we are weak in terms of defense so they don’t need to encounter us in the battlefield, they can just achieve their objectives through our own people.

    Now many think “Americans” are friends. I am sure their nation is not our enemy but when it comes to our own nation protection we need any kind of defensive power in the stand by to encounter any foreign invasion whether it is invasion of thought or invasion of land, we need to respond with positive attitude.

    It is the policies that their nation votes for under pressure of imminent threat from us. Such threats are conveyed by meida to them by their own political figures who they trust.

    Now is the time to take actions to defend the National Unity and instead of negotations with the Jihadists we should negotiate with Americans (since they are the real invaders)


  2. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:19 am

    “Our struggle is long to live in a free country.”

    Rather similar to the predicament many Lebanese find themselves facing, don’t you think, Babar?


  3. pm (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:29 am

    Babar, have a good rest , do review your comments against me, may be you realize who was right. also note the similarities between enlightened moderated exterimist (EME’s)’ pervez musharraf and fanatic ARG.


  4. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:31 am

    Analyst, your analysis is faulty. You are so far behind in the technology game that you cannot hope to catch up. To add insult to injury, the fact is that you do not possess the economic power to even stay in the game. Engaging in an arms race, even with India, let alone the USA, is simply beyond your budgetry capabilitiee. I’d thnk again if I were you.


  5. chief sahib (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:41 am

    The entire world is wondering why the muslims who would come out in force to protest against the slightest offense are sitting at home comfortably during all this. I guess we will kill our children for Izzat but will not save them for humanity. My head bows in shame


  6. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:51 am

    Yes Chief, that is exactly what I am wondering. But, in my eyes, you have no need for shame. Yours is evidently a courageous head. Hold it up with pride.


  7. Babar (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 3:58 am

    I have just one question. If ghazi rasheed now goes home, who is then responsible for the death of Colnel Islam? Why didnt they give in to his demands the very first day so that Colnel didnt have to die?
    Either the operation was launched without any clear objectives and strategy, or the ghazi arm twisted the mighty army into changing its mind and not achieving operational objectives.

    Or perhaps our great president was just waiting for the APC to be over.

    Another medal of retreat to the broad chest of our general.


  8. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:06 am

    Hey Babar. I tought you’d retired. Ttch, promises, promises.


  9. pm (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:09 am

    babar colonol died in an unholy war between two fanatics, though i’m more concerned about the deaths of innocents children and women, the number of those deaths we will never know as they will be in the mass grave in the courtyard of lal masjid.


  10. chief sahib (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:11 am

    Read this somewhere and it is apt to todays world
    “when will the muslims realize that Islam will not be judged by its dictated values but by the actions of its followers”


  11. Babar (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:16 am

    There seems to be the supreme consitutional institute in Pakistan called “Ulema”. Everything is setteled by them then why dont we write about their supreme role in the constitution.


  12. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:18 am

    “By their fruits shall ye judge them”. Indeed, always apt.


  13. Analyst (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:20 am

    Release of Ghazi Abdul Aziz elder brother of Maulana Abdul Rashid is under consideration and I hope the matter is solved with peace.


  14. Analyst (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:21 am

    Release of Ghazi Abdul Aziz, elder brother of Maulana Abdul Rashid is under consideration and I hope the matter is solved with peace.


  15. Analyst2 (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:23 am

    PTV should know that taking only part of Surah’s out of Quran without informing people about the context is telling lie against Allah. I alert PTV to stop using Quranic Verses to prove that what our Govt is doing is right.


  16. Muslim (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:26 am

    There is no Supreme Power other than Allah, you stand for him you won’t need any Supreme Judgment to solve matters.


  17. chief sahib (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:26 am

    releasing him and pardoning his brother will just set a precedent that such actions will be tolerated. So be prepared for multitudes of these fiascoes and dramas


  18. Muslim (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:29 am

    It’s what you are thinking, wake up now matter will be solved.

    Islam will take us all by surprise…

    this is what we all hope

    InshaAllah


  19. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:30 am

    What Analyst is saying here is that he hopes the guy gets off scot-free, regardless of any crimes he may or mar not have committed. Not besause he is an the least interested in peace, but because he supports the same agenda. We weren’t born yesterday, you know, sunshine.


  20. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 4:39 am

    Wow Muslim, you really are the Mcoy huh? Guess we’ll be catchin’ up with each other later. I’m looking forward to it.

    Hasta la vista, baby.


  21. DHA Vs LalMasjid (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 5:01 am

    If Askari, DHA, Fauji Foundation can plunder the resources of Pakistsan whats a big deal if red Masjid is built on un-approved land?

    Everything is possible in Pakistan, just need to show more qaed-e-azam to the others…


  22. pm (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 5:13 am

    fanatics want to take still more lives of innocents, the talks have almost failed , according to geo first draft was rejected by pm and second draft was rejected by ARG.


  23. sean (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 5:17 am

    “Everything is possible in Pakistan,”

    Really, so how about a bit of peace and prosperity. Think you could manage that. It’s not so hard. A lot of other contries have done it. Why not you? Or maybe that’s not what you really want.


  24. jahnanara (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 5:21 am

    What nonsense is this? This is another Kargil in the making. There is no plan for how to conclude this. I am really curious what the so-called lovers of Islam would have said if the masjid was a church and Ghazi was a Christian? I am sure they would have asked to kill the infidels.


  25. exciton (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 6:23 am

    It will be treachery in the name of Islam if these people will go free. But then we all know that the agenda to save Ghazi was really the agenda to perpetuate the brainwashing of the minds of poor youth by the semi-literate clergy.

    Isn’t it amazing that all those who ostensibly fight for enforcement of Shariah Law in the State, do not want any Laws of the State applied against them?

    Someone should remind all those who talk about Shariah that the end goal is to strive for equal application of Justice and Fairness for all the citizens.

    If Umar (RA) can have his own son killed for the sake of Justice; if Ali (RA) can say: “A society can thrive with kufr, but cannot survive without justice!”; it does not amaze me that all these false prophets of “deen” come together and spin the Hadith and verses of Quran to suit their own agenda.

    Behind all their ostensibly altruistic goals, the real reasons are greed and lust for power.

    The power to influence the minds of little children through a distorted interpretation of Quran and Hadith is a potent force, and it is bound to have “corrupting” consequences for those who hold such power. Ghazi brothers are not the first and definitely not the last to succumb to this.

    Some of us love to blame Americans, Indians and Jews (and every one else) for our problems. The blame game is great, since it excuses us from accepting our own very serious and very endemic mistakes. Our mistakes in failing in our collective responsibility as a society in creating a good system of education for the most impoverished members of our society.

    We will have to pay the price, and we will continue to unfortunately pay the price until and unless we own up to our responsibilities and stop blaming outsiders for our own self-imposed 500+ year Dark Age, that continues to this day!

    The sad part is that it is always the most impoverished within any society who pay the real price. While the demagogues use their suffering to promote cynicism within the society — fitna!


  26. thanos (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 6:45 am

    This just came across the wire at Breitbart:

    Pakistani security forces began storming an Islamic seminary within a mosque in Islamabad on Tuesday, where militant Islamists have holed themselves up.

    “An operation has been launched to get the Red Mosque evacuated. Commandoes have entered the mosque,” Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Wahid Arshad told reporters amidst series of explosions at the mosque.

    There are believed to be some 1,000 people, including women and children, inside the mosque, stirring concern about the possibility of mass casualties.

    Twenty-four people have so far been killed in the weeklong standoff between the militant religious students and security forces.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8Q9DA6O0&show_article=1&cat=0


  27. thanos (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:00 am
  28. Haiqa (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:03 am

    One Pakistan, only One Army, Pakistan Army.

    Support our Jawans who are giving their lives for our country.


  29. thanos (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:07 am

    UP

    Twenty children escaped from the compound of a radical mosque in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad, on Tuesday after security forces launched an operation to clear it of militants, the military said.

    “Twenty children have managed to escape during the fire. An intense engagement is going on with the militants,” said military spokesman Major-General Waheed Arshad.


  30. FUNDAMENTALIST (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:09 am

    Mulana Ghazi’s mother has been SHAHEED (Inallillah -e- Wainallah -e- Rajaun )with the firing of armed forces (read the real terrorist).

    Every one supporting the government and full throttle operation are murderers of Mulana Ghazi’s mother. I guess you all can now celebrate… SHAME ON YOU ALL


  31. Observer (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:13 am

    SEAN “Everything is possible in Pakistan,”

    Your difficulty is that you don’t detect the sarcasm. Every post you make seems aimed at inciting others as if there isn’t enough of that already.


  32. thanos (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:19 am

    Please post what is being said local news?


  33. jayjay (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:43 am

    They asked for it. The stable needs to be cleaned to eliminate this scourge of terrorism once and for all. This military operation will send the right signal to mullahs across the country.

    This crisis is the time to line up behind the army. There will be other opportunities to air political differences with the state institution.


  34. thanos (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:45 am
  35. Malcolm9X (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 7:57 am
  36. exciton (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 8:10 am

    It is only too simplistic to blame the entire Pakistan, when in fact the resolution required AGR to give himself up to save the lives of the innocent, including that of his own mother.

    He is responsible for the death of his own mother, including every innocent and all the jawans of security forces.

    Unless and until we learn to call a criminal using the name of Allah (SWT), exactly what he is, we will never be able to solve the serious problems facing our nation.

    The greatest threat to any State is accroding to Umar (RA) is fitna. AGR and his supporters were just exactly that. The nation will be a better place without them, insha Allah.


  37. exciton (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 8:14 am

    It is only too simplistic to blame the entire Pakistan, when in fact the resolution required ARG to give himself up to save the lives of the innocent, including that of his own mother.

    He is responsible for the death of his own mother, including every innocent and all the jawans of security forces.

    Unless and until we learn to call a criminal using the name of Allah (SWT), exactly what he is, we will never be able to solve the serious problems facing our nation.

    The greatest threat to any State is accroding to Umar (RA) is fitna. ARG and his militant supporters were just exactly that. The nation will be a better place without them, insha Allah.

    The terrorists who took over Makkah also had same exact arrogant beliefs and notions about their self-righteousness. Their fate was also same!


  38. Malcolm9X (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 8:58 am

    AFP reports- Three elite police commandos were killed and seven others injured in the raid. Girls school on fire
    http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/070710024914.29cpbqu1.html

    Hope it ends soon without major loss of life.


  39. IUnknown (unregistered) on July 10th, 2007 @ 11:59 am

    hamari paak fauj kay napaak javan kitni mehnat ker rhay hain muslamanon ko marney kay liay.
    Wah wah ! Musharraf


  40. Sarah (unregistered) on July 13th, 2007 @ 9:08 am

    @IUnknown, what is your difination of musalman? A person, who kills others happily, insult them, givekuffar and killing’s fatwa,s, stop people from any thing progresive and scietific? If, yes, any one who is musalman needs to be extincted from our country, so that atleast rest of the human’s can live happily and in peace, without fatwa’s shagging every where. I don’t understand, what is philosphy of these muslims, and what they want to achive, obviously power, becaouse they are not stupid. apnay pay ate hay to foran kehtay hain kabhe maff kar do, kabhe burqa pehan kay bhagtay hain and kabhe kehtay hay muzakrat karo, lakin maro nahin.
    If you guys beleive in this, then I think so there should be no concept of jail, courts, punishment in islamic country, as 99.9 % population is muslim and its okay if your muslim brother is harming you. pray to god and sit in your home waiting for “islah” of your other muslim brother.



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