Over to Gen. Kiyani
General Pervez Musharraf, who happens to be the President of Pakistan, will get done with his service as Chief of Army Staff (COAS) today morning. He will hand over the command of Pakistan Army to Gen. Ashfaq Pervez Kiyani in a ceremony to be held in GHQ. He will resign as army chief and then will take oath of the office of President of Pakistan.
Its quite interesting to note that “President of Pakistan” will take oath of the office of “President of Pakistan” on Thursday, November 29, 2007. Attorney General of Pakistan has been quoted as saying that the oath will be taken under 1973 constitution. Again its interesting to note that although PCO (2007) has put the 1973 constitution in abeyance, yet the oath will be taken under 1973 constitution.
Talking abt all NOTE things… may b u noticed that when on 3rd Nov, PTV is announcing (also showing on slides) that Chief of Army Staff General Pervez Musharaf imposed emergency. now its a notable thing that only President of Pakistan can impose it not COAS.
Even before, it is notable that a coup by sacked chief of army staff is treason and has death penalty. And any collaborators are also committing treason including political/religious parties.
i wish some one gives death penalty to mush. immediately after he resigns
that wud be fun
Moreover, gen. Ashfaq seems to be another mush.
lets C
I was among the unfortunates who had to travel through the roads adjacent to GHQ today morning. It was such a chaos all around. There was no alternate traffic plan announced. The traffic was jam packed like anything. All the roads coming from CMH, Harley St., Afshan Colony, Adyala connecting to The Mall were blocked by Police. You reach one exit, and you are told its blocked, you reach the other, that is blocked too. You ask some police guy about the next exit, and he suggests, “you’ll have to check that to be sure”.
How frustrating …
A metblog should be a metblog!
It is ALSO quite interesting to note how the metblog sites of Pakistan have become more of an anti-Musharraf/anti-Army campaign than a news and event reporting site about their respective cities as it should have been :)
Freedom of media has it’s spoiling moments doesn’t it? ;)
He was a fine soldier and is being replaced by the best there is in Pakistan Army. God bless him (Amen)
well something as big as Mushraf giving away his uniform and a new COAS at last appointed should get its place on A MetroBlog. Specially if the metroblog is from The CAPITAL city.
We get two types of opinions usually, if we post about things as reviews and city-centric, people start complaining why we are not much into Political scene and important things happening in Pakistan that affect this city equally. And the second opinion is more on the lines above.
We opt to choose a mid-way; we cant keep our hands off from the happening political scenes and not from the metro issues too.
Lets give us all this much leverage at least :-)
All public forums reflects what common ppl think abt Goverenment metblog is not an exception …Dictator or Generls accept it or not the only ones supporting the army are the children of the top brass of the army and those who are getting monetary benefits from the army.everyone knows how morally or monetary corrupt is the army.
@fauzan -> he was a fine soldier and i being replaced by the best there is in pakistan army god bless him
This is a pro musharraf stance (by a very small portion of the community) so why don’t u want other people to post anti musharrah stance which by far are in majority.
People like you don’t want other people to express their point of view. Y! Y! Y! Y! Y!
@Anti-Musharraf rants fauzan, usually people go Anti Musharraf in comments, authors usually keep it light … Like, I , personally am not much anti-musharaf. I see him as someone who got desperate in last few years …!
That’s all for IMB, at least :)
tsk tsk tsk…musharaf lover you :P
join Musharaf fan club with fauzan :P
Mushy should get a salute of 1000 spits from common people of pakistan on his retirement.
Goron ka chamcha (indian mentality)
Kiyani seems like a good person, hopefully he will kick musharrafs butt out of pakistan.
Well done Mush!! So far so good!! You have done more for this country than the fools will ever understand.
The self righteous believe that a country like Pakistan can be run by talking all the right stuff on the media and dodging tough decisions.
When you took power, few here realize that we were bankrupt, our finance minister had to beg the Chinese to pay our IMF instalments, we were like a indebted relative that nobody wants to meet. The subsequent Nawaz Sharif and Benazir Govts had crippled our financial institutions, the banks were running after cab drivers to get back their money, while the big wigs had fled. There was no end to financial scandals, organized raids on the courts and the abduction of journalists and political opponents – Free media didn’t existed.To add to above our right wing religious zealots mentored by General Hamid Gul were about to take control of our nuclear assets, they perhaps needed one more posting.
The list goes on, yes you have made mistakes and made some bad decisions but at the same time you never dodged the bullet and took responsibility for all your actions. What people don’t realize that there was a time when the youth of this country had only two viable options become a doctor or engineer. Even these two career paths were diminishing fast and there was a massive brain drain. Now the youth have god knows how many carrier options and even our expats are coming back to contribute, even they are finding viable avenues suiting their expertise. Yes there is inflation in food items spurned on by rising fuel and commodity prices world wide and our in-efficient wadera based agriculture, but that is something that this nation has to tackle objectively.
Yes you have put this country on the path of economic well being and good governance. Yes you have encouraged institutional development to achieve democratic goal s of this country, but few realize that they have to give it time. The mis-place and misguided movement by the judges and the lawyers serves no purpose. In fact it gives the window of opportunity to the corrupt politicians who are perfectly capable of wrecking what has been achieved in couple of years, hence cannot be given a free hand. Somebody else has to hold the key of the treasure and ensure continuity, therefore, you are still needed.
Hail to Musharraf! Its a pity a decent and courageous man like him found no support or appreciation in the useless Pakistani public.
MUSHU ALL THE BEST !!
Thanks Musharraf,
Beside a few mistakes You have done an excellent job for the Pakistan.
I remeber the days of Nawaz Shareef and Bibi. They almost bankcrupted Pakistan. After their looting ended, the Musharraf brought Pakistani economy back to its feet.
I hope these old political crooks and looters won’t come back to power again. I hope Pakistani know how Nawaz looted Pakistan and how he became from an old junkman to a richman.
Same goes to Bibi for taking commissions and bribes from energry companies and foreign investors.
Beside some political mistakes atleast Musharraf is not a crook nor a looter.
Good riddance.
Be bankrupt, failure or anything else bad, the name of the game is democracy!!!
WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!
Go home mushy!! u r a disgrace to pakistan
Mushy has no support in common people.
He should go and get support first and then he can do what ever he wants.
Can you guys believe it, tommorow is india vs pakistan match and no one seems interested
INDIA PAKISTAN MATCH YARON!!!!
mushy has demoralise the whole nation! No passion even for a india pakistan cricket match!
can u believe it can’t be worse. i mean it doesn’t matter who wins BUT the passion??
Thats the biggest problem of dictators, no one wants someone like that a*s**** nasim asharf as chairman of the cricket board, he is totally distroying cricket in pakistan but he is still there!!!!!!!! no one can do anything.
A friend of mushy likes cricket and just like this he is made the chairman of PCB.doesn’t matter if he knows anything about it or not.
SAYEED democracy is no potion that you can drink and everything will be fine. A lasting democracy needs strong Middle and Merchant classes not the wadera setup which we have in place.
What Mush has done is empowering of Middle / Merchant class and as they grow especially in Punjab all the democratic norms will hold sway. Some of our middle class intelligencia have been foolishly impatient and are hell bent upon cutting the branch on which they are sitting on.
Mush has been the catalyst of change under very trying circumstances and resistance from friends and foes alike, but he has stuck to his task and as the economy grows, the middle class would get more influential, and merit culture will prevail.
We owe a lot to Mush otherwise we were hopelessly lost and bewildered in the nineties. He is the one who has set targets for this nation, to be achieved one step at a time. Bravo Mush!!
Sayeed and Nedved:
Pakistanis will have to learn ratioanalism before they can appreciate the correct decisions Musharraf has taken in his tenure.
Nedved:
When was Pakistan a meritocracy that you blast Musharraf in such a manner? The only meritocracy in Pakistan is the Army.
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3016/currentnewsfuture.htm
LOL… THIS is amusing! :)
I still maintain. He was a fine soldier. Rant away so called ‘majority’ :)
A fine soldier who grew desperate for power :-)
@kami: either u r a govt. servant or u dont have any time to look out of ur house. look where pakistan is heading to.
no improvment wat so ever. improvment has just been in the news.
May be u have got new car and big home :D
moreover, there is no news that Mush. has RETIRED . Might be that he has just left Army chief posst BUT he is still a GENERAL.
I like the idea of 1000 spits though. I think our spits do deserve some respect. Specially that “Pan wali spit” ;)
http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/071106/68/4cg5l.html
karwa sach!!!!
Dictator said that without army Pakistan cannot exist
If that was the case then why did we lose 1971 war and why did Army lay arms in Dhaka
If that is the case then why did Soviet Union Break up
If that is the case then why did Army soldiers – 250 of them – lay arms to mere half trained Taliban
Army and Musharraf should know – that existence of Pakistan is because of rule of law and constitution and because of people of Pakistan.
People here who say economy has improved since mushy came in power are either misguiding people or know nothing about economy.
Economy is not judged by foreign reserve or other stupid things mushy says, state of economy of any country is judged by standard of living of people.And standard of living can be seen by per capita income (in monetary terms).
When mushy came our per capita was 650 USD(india’s was 625)and now its 1050 USD, which mushy claims to be a achievement but its a failure in real terms.World average per capita income was 1200 USD in 1999 and now its 3200 USD and that’s basically cuz of quadrupling of all the major commodities in the world. So we were better of (more purchasing power)in 1999 with 650 USD than 1050 USD right now.
We have under performed big time compared to rest of the world.All during the 90’s (democratic period)we were keeping up with the world and progressing.
Plus remember we have rented out our army (3000+ soldier dead) for 15 billion USD, don’t know where all that money has gone.
Mushu we still Love you !!!
Just do one thing NEVER EVER RE-OPEN GEO.
hmm so now under civilian rule…. again new military coup ??
Fauzan, there is no army record of Musharaf being “a fine soldier”. He did not get any significant medals, unless he gave himself some. Could you elaborate on his “fine soldier” side and on why this was missed by Army, pre-Musharaf dictatorial period?
In case you are confusing being a fine soldier with something else, here are examples of some fine soldiers; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nishan-i-Haider
Say what you anti-Musharraf people want but I have to say that Pakistan has lost one of its greatest rulers. All you who blame Musharraf for the wrong things and focus on glass being half empty. Wait till Mian and /or Bibi rule the country, you will know how they will compare against Musharraf.Past experiences of Mian and Bibi rule speak for themselves.
Glass being half empty half full what the hell is all this (all mushy bu*ls**t)
WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK from this indian
@KHAN,
you pathetic, roach. Its mentality of people like you who has divided this country.
I don’t like MUSH, but I wouldn’t call him Indian.
@ YESSIR
Y? do u think indians r worse than cockroaches.
I called him an indian not cuz he is a mohajir, i said that cuz his mentality is like them.Too impressed by goras.No selfrespect, always talking about pakistan first but doing the opposite.
I am from karachi and urdu speaking myself.
Khan:
Powerful goras have be appeased upto a point. That is the reality of this world that a fool like you does not understand.
Who is impressed by Goras? KHAN the fact is AID aside if US / EU today decreases our textile quota or increase duties on our textile products our whole economy which is still dependent on this sector will collapse, and millions will be rendered jobless.
Untill unless we continue to diversify, we will have to listen to what Gora is saying. Countries like Malaysia have progressed to such an extent that the west needs them as much as they need west. We can get there but it will take time, certainly not now.
All this discussion is useless. I think we still need this man in the political ground. I am basically not with Musharaf, but I am with his mantallity, approch and thinking. lets pray , BB and Nawaz starts to think like this, and I will wave their flags too.
Welcome Back Mushy….
Pakistan has underperformed the world, economically during MUshy BUS PERIOD. During 90’s we performed above averge.
We want democracy. MUshy is not popular among masses doesn’t matter how good he says he is. If he thinks he is right he should convince the people of pakistan and not americans.
His popularity he below 1% right now (including KAMI n SUH)
I was so looking forward to a better pakistan with a democratic rule free media and free higher judicial courts(lower courts still needed much improvement)but MUshy has once again messed up everything. With the kind of media n judicial system we were developing everthing would have been accounted for.It was such a nice way for a new beginning for pakistan.
Just because of ONE PERSON!!!! YYYYYY
We want democracy…… Who say this? Benazir? Nawaz Sharif? Qazi sahab? Comon!!! Have you ever seen any common person in the parliment or cabinet? Who was running the so called democracy? All these faces? All these are fudal lords, who just want to maintain their bank accounts and run away. We have seen couple of Polititions. duuuhhh… They are again here. Democracy is NOT for Pakistani people, until they start to use their brains.
NEDVED Please don’t even try to compare the 90’s from today. It was loot maar of the lowest kind. Can anybody tell why the subsequent BB / Nawaz govt were appointing Bank Presidents even before announcing there cabinets? To name a few Younus Dalia, yunus Habib, Shaukat something, Tajamul Hussain and the list goes on, because these folks opened the flood gates for them. State Bank was hapless to stop the rot. Other institutions like NDFC, ADBp etc were also driven to ground. We also saw the most muddy privatization process and the advent of the Korean firms getting un-usual share in every thing. You guys forgot the monumental Yellow Cab scheme and loan distribution to MNA’s / MPA’s. In fact it was the norm to get hold of the right MNA if you wanted to get a Bank loan , which of course you were not required to pay back.
Also, not to mention the Textile quota scam, the navy subs, cotacna, plot grabbing and the list goes on. Every national asset was up for loot. Strangely enough there were no Suo Motto’s either, by God we have short memories.
In contrast now I see, State Bank autonomous and all powerful, financial institutions in competent hands, great strides in telecom and industrial sectors, higher education getting the lime light, universities getting un-heard of funds and actually undertaking well funded research projects. I see a plumber, electrician, thaley wala carrying a cell phone and going about his business. Yes this period has been mainly about recovery and building the infrastructure, now investors are lining up from China to middle east and Europe to invest in long term projects like Refinaries, Ports and even dairy farming. So we need to hold the boat steady, progress towards democracy, poverty eradication and other high ideals. Yes, there have been mistakes made, priorities not rightly set, so point them out and pressurise the govt to do more. Why commit Suo Motto Hara Kirri, cripple your institutions, demoralize the nation / millitary and needlessly invite chaos?
As for how American aid is being spent, even they admit that Pakistan has used it to modernize its military more so for conventional warfare rather than anti-terrorist operations. As for Waziristan operations Mush has also said that the solution is political as well as military, but what our political parties who have influence in the area do? …..Blackmail! What were they doing when Lal Masjid was unfolding? ….sitting in London and giving politically correct statements, waiting to take advantage. Now they claim to be all righteous.
Nedved:
Pakistani economy has performed many times better in thd 00’s as opposed to 90’s. To argue otherwise is to be silly.
Free media doesnt mean media that glorifies terrorists, independent judiciary doesnt mean judges at war with the govt and “democracy” doesnt mean kleptocrats to suck the nation’s blood and money.
IF you can understand these things, then you will under Musharraf’s actions and why I support them.
Pakistan has underperformed world average economically. This is no achievement, its a failure.
Most of these people are just too blind and dumb to see hear the truth. They know that Musharraf government has been the best for Pakistan since decades. 90’s era was good??!! gimme a break man. We were gone in the sink, daily bloodshed in Karachi and dacoit running wild in Sindh. We were under the control of IMF and World Bank. Now we dont even hear any of these big loaning banks anymore. Shout as much as you can, that will not change the facts. Musharraf was and still is good for Pakistan. Wait till someone from Mian or bibi or Qazi comes and then you will see how they will ruin Pakistan.
Nedved:
“World average” is a meaningless figure, comprising high-growth, medium-growth and low-growth economies. With 7% growth rate, Pakistan is in the high-growth economy.
You seem to be a follower of what Reagan called “voodoo economics”.
ha ha ha.. IMF and world bank are still there and perhaps more incharge of the situation than previous. OPEN UR EYES
Guys check this out
http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2007/12/04/update-1343-lums-besieged-important-information-for-islamabad/
hahahaha IMF is gone, World Bank is there. World Bank has praised the economic growth of Pakistan.
I agree with KAMI..
Let Mushy do his best.