Emergency to go Tomorrow…. come again another day

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It seems now that Mr Musharaff has arrested all the people he needed, removed the judges that disagreed, appointed himself as supreme ayatollah president, cajoled all the defaulters into line ensuring they stand for election and changed the army top brass – we are now set to see Emergency powers removed tomorrow….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071213/ap_on_re_as/pakistan

Emergency didn’t prove to be any obstacle to life in Islamabad, at least driving around I didnt see any visible signs of army or tanks on the street… So maybe now is a good time to ask WHY?
Why do we all have to suffer international inginity and honorary “banana republic” status just for one man to cling onto power… (Incidentally BB and Nawaz were no different).
Cant these people see that every time they take these extreme measures to perpetuate their meagre political existence they actually are doing more harm than good?

Mr Musharaff is changing the constitution so that we cant ask that question either….

18 Comments so far

  1. KAMI (unregistered) on December 14th, 2007 @ 7:44 pm

    Please don’t try to over simplify the whole situation by describing it as a “Desire by one man man to hang on to the power”. It was not that! Those who are crying foul should also realize where they were dragging the country. Yes, we are not a perfect democracy yet, but there is no need to rush it either. If the out of bounds courts and lawyers had their way, this country would have gone through another major crises and a power vacuum would have engulfed all. The Supreme Court now should revert to their job as an appalet body and not become a suo motto police, they should not have dragged their feet after the re-instatement of the CJ. The lawyers should change their attitude and not become a yalghaaree battalion, cursing and foul mouthing on their way to no where. We should realize that we are still are under millitary rule albeit a very soft one, and our politicians are not that trust worthy either. We should have allowed Mush to doff his uniform in peace without creating un-necessary mayhem and constitutional wrangling. The wise ones clearly weigh their options and alternatives before jumping into the fire. All this movement mongering has helped no one except the corrupt politician, who were able to take advantage and secure concessions.

    Now we have a civil President and soon will have another elections and another civil Prime Minister, and that’s the way to move forward, hopefully by the time of next elections things would be much better. At the moment I more concerned about securing what we have. We have great potential now in the form of capital and human resource, but if we create a climate of uncertainty both will take flight, just like the 90’s and this time it will be nearly impossible to bring them back.


  2. MB (unregistered) on December 14th, 2007 @ 8:19 pm

    Musharraf is just the PUBLIC-NAME of a class known as ARMY. The poor puppet had to get all the filth to save the GHQ.

    Its about the ARMY vs PEOPLE of PAKISTAN demanding the rule of LAW (while the ARMY only understands the stick). If there wouldnt be MUSH there would be another MAN at the top slot so it doesnt matter if thats MUSH or SOMEONE else.

    The main point is its time we decide if this country is for the men in khaki or all other. The so-called-sacred ARMY brings in the corrupt to core politicians into power , then throw them out by charging them with corrupt and all the evils, then brings another puppet group and the circus GOES on.

    We are sick of the GHQ games and want democracy. Just look at the mentality of the man at top. He considers all others as animals on street when he talks about Democracy.


  3. Aamir (unregistered) on December 14th, 2007 @ 9:14 pm

    Besides condemning Musharraf and everybody else, do you actually have any solutions? Or was that just another rant?


  4. KAMI (unregistered) on December 15th, 2007 @ 12:23 am

    MB your comments about the army would have hold water if it was Zia’s era. The irony is when the army was all powerful and was not listening to the public, everybody complied and remained silent, but when army made up its mind that it does not want to indulge in politics and move away from it in a gradual manner and practically started to work in that direction; re-building collapsed institutions with the help of professionals, giving un-heard of liberties in our society by openning many locked doors. All of a sudden a certain lobby took this as a sign of weakness and taking advantage of one or two incidents tried to turn the apple cart.

    Its not the question of army bringing in corrupt politicians to the fore, the problem is that the whole lot is rotten, (of course the previous military regimes should share the burden of responsibility for that). So its not the case of army bringing in the corrupt, its also what we choose is what we get. When the whole political fraternity considers politics a business / investment then there is not a lot to choose from. Our respected courts miserably failed to convict any major political leader despite mountains of evidence, they simply didn’t had the guts, so there is no filter mechanism except elections. We shouldn’t in any case shy away or jeopardise the electoral process, instead we should be patient, let there be a watch dog at the top and let the politicians prove themselves to the public. If they are not given adequate room to manoeuvre then their grievances would be understandable.

    Already the military has withdrawn from civil responsibilities, the president is now civil, all our major institutions, local bodies, corporations plus federal and provincial governments are in civilian hands and this trend will continue, there is no need to make haste and invite anarchy. Let me remind you that there are certain very strong lobbies who want otherwise.

    I don’t want to comment on arguments like “He considers all others as animals on street when he talks about Democracy” because they are purely rhetorical and not in touch with reality.


  5. jahnanara (unregistered) on December 15th, 2007 @ 5:11 am

    Good one Kami. Besides doing all that you have listed, Mush is single-handedly changing the constitution to meet his own needs. Have you ever heard of anyone other than a dictator doing that? I wish he hangs one day for what he has done to us as a nation.


  6. Majad (unregistered) on December 15th, 2007 @ 11:02 am

    I disagree with the comments that the Pakistan military machine is moving away from politics and encouraging democracy – in fact the opposite is happening for those who observe the changes that this regime has undertaken. It was this regime that created the all powerful National Security council on which sit three of the powerful generals plus two civilians. What is the remit of this committee? it will decide on MAJOR policy matters including foriegn policy, the war on terror in particular (subtext how to comply with US policy demands in Pakistan).
    Musharaf has played the political scene successfully so that no clear winner will emerge from the next elections, thus rendering himself omnipotent and further giving the Army a free hand.
    Now I am not against the Army being in power, per se, because the Army has been in politics since this country started out. However, everyone wants an accountable, honest, law abiding and investment oriented government – Musharaf has failed on these accounts and the recent crisis is just another example of that.
    Lets not debate particulars, because I think we all want the same thing for Pakistan, security, prosperity and rule of law for all. Unfortunately for us, we have never seen any of our rulers working for these objectives – only hungry for power and property.


  7. musharaf commando (unregistered) on December 15th, 2007 @ 12:24 pm

    i am a wife swaper


  8. KAMI (unregistered) on December 16th, 2007 @ 10:51 am

    What Constitution you guys are talking about. This constitution has already suffered God knows how many amendments and over 300 clauses have been modified since 1971. It was flawed to begin with and the greatest threat to it was the 15th amendment rpoposed by Nawaz Sharif. You guys talk about Rule of Law , but achieving that is not that simple. It the question of changing attitudes and Psyche of the nation, even the lawyers have shown lawlessness in their attitude.

    All I am saying that we are much better of than what wwe were in the 80’s and the 90’s, when we were trapped in a downward sspiral, when our youth had no hope and our enterpreaneurs have given up. We had two weeks of kitty and our debts were being paid by China on personal requests. Our financial institutions had collapsed and we had only PTV, we were miserable. Since then we have come a long way, the transformation is nothing short of amazing, and the credit for that goes to Musharraf. Yes, the NSC was constituted, because its essential for the transition to continue. Our leading political leaders have demonstrated in the past that they cannot be trusted with National Secrets and strategic assets. So until a better lot appears there is got to be a check.

    On the other side there are the zealots like Hameed Gul flanked by Qazi and Imran Khan, who have far greater screwed up objectives for Pakistan and Mush is their hurdle in chief. They want to make Pakistan a Pan-Islamic Revolution instigator, By the way Hameed Gul came very close during Nawaz’s regime, he had quite a few key postings, but then Nawaz blundered. Let me remind you that Pakistan will be attacked if there is slightest doubt about the security of our nuclear assets.

    All Mush was asking was, to bear with him, elections will happen, he will give up the uniform and army’s role will be curtailed and thats very visible, even in this emergency all you saw was the police while the army cleaned up Swat with renewed confidence.

    I know people have very short memories, but I am not the one who cannot distinguish between a Mohsin and a looter. What has happened in the recent past is not desirable and even Musharraf admits that, but whats needed to be done should be done to hold it all together.It is very easy to criticise but very difficult to take tough decisions and take responsibility for your actions. Believe me there are not many in Pakistan who can do that.


  9. Rizwan (unregistered) on December 16th, 2007 @ 11:01 pm

    All of Mushraf Bashers remember one thing Allah will judge people based on their intentions not on their deeds. Now If Mushraf has good intentions even God is not going to go after him. So relax take a deep breath and if you are Muslim a true Muslim think hard since the birth of Pakistan which other leader brought in money rather than taking out? Trust your leader.Imagine Pakistan with out only one credible institute and that is our Army. This man loves clothes and food with good drinks thats all. He is not here to rob Pakistan like others did.
    Mushraf Jeo Hazarooo Saaaal


  10. Sadia Khan (unregistered) on December 17th, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

    Anwar Saddat went to make a speech at “Cairo University” Students started shouting insults at him and cried “Long Live Jamal Abdul Nasir” He raised his voice and shouted “Every tongue that protests will be cut” There was pin drop silence, than Saddat said that is “How Nasir Ruled You” This is the language you understand, than softening his voice said, I would like to change the way Nasir ruled you. Mushraff made the same mistake, he should have ruled like “Zia” Laton kae bhoot baton sai nahin maantae. What democracy? Burning cars to express your point of view? Where esteemed ex-judges say if Supreme Court decides against us, we will create law and order situation. We need honest administrators who can keep the country running.


  11. Sadia Khan (unregistered) on December 17th, 2007 @ 12:51 pm

    Anwar Saddat went to make a speech at “Cairo University” Students started shouting insults at him and cried “Long Live Jamal Abdul Nasir” He raised his voice and shouted “Every tongue that protests will be cut” There was pin drop silence, than Saddat said that is “How Nasir Ruled You” This is the language you understand, than softening his voice said, I would like to change the way Nasir ruled you. Mushraff made the same mistake, he should have ruled like “Zia” Laton kae bhoot baton sai nahin maantae. What democracy? Burning cars to express your point of view? Where esteemed ex-judges say if Supreme Court decides against us, we will create law and order situation. We need honest administrators who can keep the country running.


  12. KAMI (unregistered) on December 17th, 2007 @ 8:54 pm

    This is a strange paradox in Pakistan, when army’s rule was absolute the whole country complied, even when the court was raided by the charging MNA’s of Nawaz Sharif the whole lot of the angry lawyers just stood aside and did nothing. There is a very interesting comment in ISB metblogs by Sadia:

    Anwar Saddat went to make a speech at “Cairo University” Students started shouting insults at him and cried “Long Live Jamal Abdul Nasir” He raised his voice and shouted “Every tongue that protests will be cut” There was pin drop silence, than Saddat said that is “How Nasir Ruled You” This is the language you understand, than softening his voice said, I would like to change the way Nasir ruled you. Mushraff made the same mistake, he should have ruled like “Zia” Laton kae bhoot baton sai nahin maantae.”

    But Musharraf never wanted to rule like Zia or any of our corrupt leaders, all he was saying, “Give me another term, I’ll ensure that elections happen, you will have a new Prime Minister, a civil President, meantime the army will recede further, already there is visibly a much greater civilian role in running the country than it was in past 30 odd years. Mayors are running the cities, Police is under Nazims, provincial autonomy is on the cards, all major govt controlled corps are being privatized, media is flourishing, gradually all institutions are coming out of a 40 year slumber. So whats the hurry? Why invite in-stability? Why give crazy zealots a chance to exploit the situation? If mistakes have been made on the law & order front then pressurize the govt to correct that, rather then create new complex situations and wash our dirty laundry in front of the whole world. Yes the army stalwarts of the past share a major burden of responsibility for what has happened viz a viz Taliban / Osama, but its also a fact that we need this army more than ever to clean the mess, if they are sacrificing their lives then we better back them up. Furthermore, the current lot of politicians is not that competent or trustworthy, a watch dog is necessary until democracy matures, so have your elections and raise hue and cry afterwards.”

    People like ASA have an agenda and that’s the Man with the long beard roams free and Pakistan once again becomes exporter of Islamic Revolution world wide, for that they will curse anybody. Hameed Gul does not care about Free judiciary, he wants Mush out so that the tribal areas remain a safe heaven. A safe heaven which he created.


  13. KAMI (unregistered) on December 18th, 2007 @ 12:29 am

    Sorry for the above post…pasted here by mistake…..multiple windows were open :(


  14. Rizwan (unregistered) on December 18th, 2007 @ 10:13 am

    Something is wrong with people in Pakistan its just not adding up. Many has the mission to go after Mushraf it almost feels like they are at job.They are getting funds from enemy or Al-Qaida
    And yes its all timing that money came in Pakistan but at least Mushraf did not buy homes in London and Paris with that money.
    Anti Mushraf propaganda funded by someone proves Pakistan media should be censored for the interest of Pakistan. Unless media is mature enough to judge people who write them.
    Allah will look after Pakistan Insha Allah he sent Mushraf just for that. Hopefully BB and NS has learned few things while they slept in nice residences not in jails.
    Once again we must kill extremism in Pakistan. Sufism is needed not extremism.
    One has to understand how non Muslims feel about extremists. Look what they are doing to our Army Jawans.
    I am very happy and I was hopping that Mushraf will smoke out extremists in Swat while Emergency was put in place. Smoke these cockroaches out of caves.Allah never wanted Islam to spread with beheading of innocents. Islam is better spread with examples.Muslim scholars need to come out and talk about this.

    Allah Bless Pakistan


  15. Rizwan (unregistered) on December 18th, 2007 @ 10:18 am

    I am nto fan of Altaf Hussain but lately his statements are making so much sense. check this out
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cpEtj5qZwk
    he must be trying to clean his image? bad deeds done in past haunt you forever.very true


  16. shaibee (unregistered) on December 18th, 2007 @ 11:03 pm

    @ Rizwan

    You know who is an extremist?
    I would appreciate a serious answer.

    And BTW, as far as money-coming-to-Pakistan is concerned, I hope you would have seen Indecent Proposal. If you haven’t, give it a watch, it might be revealing.


  17. Rizwan (unregistered) on December 19th, 2007 @ 9:39 pm

    Who is extremist in Pakistan? Are you kidding me ?
    Indecent Proposal ???
    I do not care Pakistan needs money whatever way it comes. Pakistan does not have a strong base and for that we need money. The who Pakistan has to stand on that base. Money has to flow in Pakistan. We have been providing service and we get money for that.


  18. Rizwan (unregistered) on December 20th, 2007 @ 10:39 am

    Here is the good news for enemies of Pakistan.
    New US conditions may cost Pakistan billions of dollars.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/2007/12/19/AR2007121902502.html?hpid=sec-world

    Now all the propaganda Machine can calibrate their hard work paid off.

    We can always ask Allah for hep he will give us money. Allah will take care of us. Allah will save us. Who needs this aid. Yeah why use brain Allah will do everything for us…Right?

    Guess what you all played into enemies hand. Even TV channels.Our media could not handle the freedom of press.They aided enemy. They made enemies job much easier.

    no one does the show like P J MIR only responsible host on TV. Rest are not bad but unknowingly they played into enemies hand. This has caused us loss of billions of dollars today which we need so badly and which enemy does not want us to have.

    Allah Bless Pakistan.



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