Pakistan – The world’s most dangerous place 2

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As is clear from the title, this is a follow-up to my earlier blog Pakistan – The world’s most dangerous place. In that blog I just told the readers about an article in The Economist and did not go into detail about my opinion on the issue. Many people read that article and commented on it. Soon after my fellow blogger A for [pine]Apple posted Peace of Mind: Where art thee?, a very thought provoking article along the same lines.

First I’d like to comment on A for [pine]Apple’s car getting stolen. Islamabad, even in its most crime-free days, had a handful of car thefts. I will not be quick to reject the argument that this may be one of those handfuls. Nonetheless, I hope that the author may regain possession of their vehicle.

Let’s have a look at the article in the economist. Most of what has been said in that article is true. Most, not all. Yes, the political situation in the country is very unclear. Yes the role of the military is becoming increasingly unbearable. The lack of leadership is clear. But are these really the problems we want to be focusing on solving?

I think not. What we really need to focus on, are the underlying causes for these problems and all that plagues our country. We need to focus on the people. A for [pine]Apple has it spot on when she says its the people that are responsible. We, the nation are the problem. But then we are also the solution.

What’s wrong with us anyway? Why are we as a nation unable to grow out of these teething problems our country faces?

I have an idea about what the problems are. I actually saw most of them in comments people made to A for [pine]Apple’s post. People blaming someone else for what’s wrong, people talking about giving up and detaching themselves from the problem instead of owning up to them, and no one, not one person came close to giving a proper solution to these problems.

So thats what I’m asking for now. Lets stop running away from our problems. Let’s embrace them. If we cant fix things, we can atleast find a workable solution these problems.

My solution: Tolerance. People co-existing peacefully. People willing to accomodate a competitive thought from another. People open to the opinion of other’s even if it is contrary to their own. If we can do this, we will learn to listen and maybe one day someone will have something to say that can bring change for the good.

Comments please, as always.

23 Comments so far

  1. Hasan Mubarak (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 1:40 pm

    You guys scare me :You guys scare me :<


  2. Rehan (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 2:08 pm

    @Shahab I agree with your solution based on Tolerance and I believe that this “Tolerance” can only be gained if all of us become brothers without any discretion whether one is Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh, Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi or Muhajir etc. In other words we need to act upon the saying of Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah i.e. “Unity, Faith, Discipline”.


  3. IWonder (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 7:34 pm
  4. RE (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 9:32 pm

    Inside the student life of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari
    Shocking pictures of Bilawal
    http://www.longlivepakistan.com/?p=28


  5. pakistan gone gone gone (unregistered) on January 9th, 2008 @ 11:47 pm

    good. bastards should die in millions for their
    crimes in Kashmir and other parts of India where they created terrorism

    Pakistan’s lost frontier

    Jinnah’s moth-eaten dream is shattering along Indus, says Sushant Sareen

    Nearly half a dozen of my cousins who are officers in the Army have quit in the last year”, revealed a Pashtun journalist friend. According to another Pashtun journalist, who has been reporting the Islamist insurgency from ground-zero, there have been many desertions from the paramilitary forces (the Frontier Corp and Tribal Levies). He spoke about a friend of his who quit the tribal levies because he was warned by his father that if he died fighting the Taliban, let alone getting a burial, even his body will not be permitted to enter the village.

    Already people in Islamabad and Lahore are talking about an exodus of people from the areas affected by conflict. Tribal maliks and khans, businessmen and local Government officials like district nazim and councilors are moving to Peshawar, and in many cases settling their families in the cities of Punjab.

    But uncertainty about the future is also affecting those who are already living in cities of Punjab. A senior Pashtun bureaucrat called a journalist friend and wondered what the future holds for Pashtuns, especially those who are well integrated in Pakistani (read Punjabi) power structure. The journalist, who is himself a Pashtun, later said that people like him who have great associations and friendships in Punjab and have never felt alien in Punjab will be worst affected if the conflict between the Pashtun Islamists and the Pakistani state worsens. He feared that if and when the sentiment in Punjab turns hostile to Pashtuns, people like him will be rejected (if not ejected) by Punjab and will be misfits among fellow Pashtuns.

    And it won’t take much for the Punjabis to turn hostile towards the Pashtuns. Journalist Imtiaz Alam thinks that a couple of suicide attacks in Lahore will have Punjab baying for blood. For the moment, however, unlike Islamabad, where the fear of terrorist strikes by Pashtun jihadis and suicide bombers is palpable, in Lahore the war being waged in trans-Indus Pakistan is still somewhat distant. This is so partly because until now, the jihadis and Taliban have only targeted the security forces. Civilian casualties in suicide bombings can by and large be classified as ‘collateral damage’. But the pattern of attacks could change as the fighting in NWFP and the tribal areas worsens and the military offensive causes heavy collateral damage in both life and property among Pashtuns.

    Not surprisingly, many Punjabis are now openly voicing the fear if the deteriorating situation in the Pashtun belt (NWFP and the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan) is not arrested and reversed fast, the frontier would be lost. And if the frontier is lost, then Baluchistan, too, would break away from Pakistan.

    Popular Urdu columnist Nazir Naji, who has received death threats from the Islamist groups for writing against them, doesn’t mince his words in saying that Pakistan is heading for failure. Like many others in Lahore and Islamabad, he invokes the Col Ralph Peters thesis about Pakistan splitting vertically along the Indus.

    The only saving grace about the situation that Pakistan confronts in the Pashtun belt is that both the state and society has got out of the denial mode and is recognising that the problem posed by the forces of jihad is far worse than they ever imagined. The setbacks received by the military have ended the cocky confidence that a crack of the whip or a shot of cannon will be enough to restore order in the turbulent Pashtun belt. The state machinery, so effective against unarmed and peaceful protestors like the lawyers, journalists and political workers, has crumbled in the face of battle-hardened and committed to their cause Taliban.

    Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao has admitted that the traditional instruments through which the state established its writ — tribal jirgas and lashkars, using the influence of powerful maliks, khans and sardars — no longer work. The social structures have been turned on their head by the militant-mullah compact. He blames two things for this state of affairs: First, the office of the political agent was devalued by the administrative reforms ushered in by Mr Pervez Musharraf’s local body system; second, and more damaging was the inaction of the MMA Government in NWFP in taking timely and effective counter measures against the jihadis. For instance, he says, the MMA Government avoided using the Army against the jihadis in Swat even though the troops were on the standby.

    Mr Sherpao said that the federal Government could not order Army action without the concurrence of the provincial Government because, not only would it then have been accused of violating the principles of federation, but the MMA would have also exploited the situation politically by inciting the people against the federal Government, as indeed it did after Army action was ordered in Swat.


  6. Pakistan Gone Gone Gone (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 2:17 am

    On second thought, Indian newspapers are not credible when it comes to Pakistan.


  7. Aamir (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 2:19 am

    Pakistan’s problem is that it is an internally weak state. When our police, paramilitary and intelligence outfits are larger, better equipped and trained, and the public supports them, then terrorist(and their foreign sponsors) will not be able to roam our lands and hit wherever they please.


  8. pakistan gone gone gone (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:39 am

    Not only Indian newspapers are unreliable when it comes to Pakistan, only Paki newspapers have monopoly over the truth. Quran mentions it somewhere.


  9. SELF (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 6:10 am

    “more damaging was the inaction of the MMA Government in NWFP in taking timely and effective counter measures against the jihadis.”

    These Mullahs are going to be the death of us.


  10. Pakistan Gone Gone Gone (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 6:41 am

    Indian newspapers and Bollywood have similar education value. Gai Mata told me.


  11. Pakistan Gone Gone Gone (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 6:42 am

    Indian newspapers have the same credibility as Bollywood when it comes to Pakistan.


  12. Anonymous (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 10:09 am

    [[ C O M M E N T – M O D E R A T E D ]]


  13. Pakistan Gone Gone Gone (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 11:36 am

    India robbed Kashmir and murdered thousands, however that is not considered a problem in Indian media hence I don’t consider it a problem either.

    Jai Hind.


  14. Pakistan gone gone gone (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 2:18 pm

    Which Kashmir?? Same place where lakhs of Pandits have been hounded out of their ancestral place and are now living in other parts of india.


  15. JayJay (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 3:46 pm

    Why a retard is so worried about Christians? Do you have capacity to stomach if a Christian retaliates to this diatribe?

    And why such inflamatory and hateful comments are permitted by the bloggers?


  16. EDITED (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 7:40 pm

    The Kashmir which India stole in 1947, where India keeps an occupation force of 700K and where India has murdered thousands of Kashmiris and inflicted many atrocities.

    I found the above info in non-indian media sources. Very informative!

    [[ C O M M E N T – M O D E R A T E D ]]


  17. Hasan Mubarak (unregistered) on January 10th, 2008 @ 8:47 pm

    I fear for our country :(
    It’s getting too much now.

    http://lahore.metblogs.com/archives/2008/01/victims_of_terr.phtml


  18. A for [pine]apple (unregistered) on January 11th, 2008 @ 1:47 am

    thanks shahab for kind words :>

    And JayJay thats bit lethargic on our side … we are editing ~ thanks!

    Hasan prayers with you all, the ones departed … the condition’s getting worse … Allah will help inshah allah!

    @All anti-pakistan commenters, This country will stay and remain … we’ve hopes and the Biggest weapon, weapon of prayers, in this world. So dont loose your energies in useless rant.


  19. (unregistered) on January 11th, 2008 @ 8:47 am

    [[ C O M M E N T M O D E R A T E D ]]

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  20. (unregistered) on January 11th, 2008 @ 8:47 am

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  21. Pakistan Gone Gone Gone (unregistered) on January 12th, 2008 @ 5:11 am

    Allright!! Time for some Paki Power!


  22. RE (unregistered) on January 13th, 2008 @ 1:29 am

    Talibans and LA-qaeda is still in Iraq and Afghanistan . I hope Musharraf gets rid of all extremist in Pakistan. But he must do it with his way as he knows the dynamics of the region. Many of you must understand Al-Qaida was created by USA to kick Russia out. Then USA left Afghanistan mess behind when Russia left. Leaving all these headaches for Pakistan. Then again after 9-11 USA left Afghanistan for Iraq. Once again leaving the headaches for Pakistan. Pakistan has helped USA the best way they can. BeNazir was acting the way USA wanted her to act. She is dead now. Musharraf knows better. and he knows how to kill the extremist snakes with out breaking the stick. He is after extremists give him time. We have trusted Bush and he has spent trillions of dollars on unwanted war and 11 billion given to Pakistan for same job is not enough money. Stop giving them money as Musharraf said yesterday :”Over the last 6 years, we have received a total of around $9 billion. More than half for fighting terrorism … If the Americans don’t want to pay any more, they should ask other people to help them. But the fight against terrorism would suffer,” Musharraf said.World is used to our BS and now lets be honest with the world. clean the image of USA no one buys into stupid propaganda. We Americans has made the rest of the world smart. Only way is to be honest and talk with facts. Do not blame others for our mistakes.


  23. IUnknown (unregistered) on January 14th, 2008 @ 11:33 am

    kai wohi bakwas tum logon nay lagi huio hay al0qaida aur extremisists ki,,, mullk main atta nahi hay .. aur tum loagon ki zaban band nahi ho rhai hay.

    Pait bahray huay hain nay tum logon kay

    @jayjay: i think u r paid for every such lame post. so go ahead paid worker. do ur job



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