Resigned

Sigh.

So Musharaf resigned.

68 Comments so far

  1. IUnknown (iunknown) on August 24th, 2008 @ 12:55 pm

    these facts are all those, which was barked by shaukat aziz and Musharraf. And then mush. had to call shaukat aziz back in order to justify his policies :)

    There is no truth .. All lies in politics. Mush used army for his own purpose solely. Whole country is burning now.

    May ALLAH bless pakistan


  2. Adnan Siddiqi (adnansiddiqi) on August 24th, 2008 @ 3:18 pm

    Very well put by BBC correspondent:


    And like the emperor who had no clothes, no-one in his immediate circle seemed willing to tell him that his time was up.

    Source: http://tinyurl.com/mush-ends


  3. furquanatique on August 24th, 2008 @ 9:50 pm

    Unknown, first of all, let me congratulate you on being such an honest flamer.

    Secondly your use of the word "burning" and "barked" makes me feel it is my, and other intellectuals waste of time trying to talk to you. Even some individuals who support your view are better educated in politics, and don’t resort to such atrocious words, such as yours. Your pessimism is not what Pakistan needs at the time being.

    There is a fine line between you and the politicians, I am not party to that, whilst even your nick, "IUnknown" gives me the creeps. So please refrain from using words that subliminally reveal your true personality and identity. Thanks.


  4. IUnknown (iunknown) on August 25th, 2008 @ 10:57 am

    @furquanatique: thanks for the complements. I would like to be an honest person for my whole life doesnt matter if u call me flamer or wat.

    It looks like u r not in pakistan rite now, to face the chaos created by Shaukat(the wolf) and Mush (the dog). Else you would have agreed to my words open heartedly. The worsst thing is that ppl still support those cowards and roberer and calllling other as flamers.


  5. Broken Bond… | Islamabad Metblogs (pingback) on August 26th, 2008 @ 3:14 pm

    […] and PPP coalition is now officially broken. The alliance that formed a major energy source that led stepping down of Musharraf as the President of Pakistan is now no more. Zardari is not in favor of getting the deposed/ disposed Judges back and Nawaz […]


  6. Monazza Talha (montaleast13) on August 27th, 2008 @ 8:00 am

    I was looking at the statistics provided by kaami. I was beginning to think all of this was true when i came across this:

    Poverty level in 1999: 34%
    Poverty level in 2007: 24%

    And now i want to know more than ever about the source of these statistics. I do see around to ‘believe’ but this was completely unbelievable.

    -Monazza.


  7. kaami on August 27th, 2008 @ 8:32 pm

    These are not statistics but facts. Poverty did came down but now of course after this current spate of inflation it will go up again.

    Let me remind you in late 90’s the headline of Pakistani Newspapers used to be that IMF and World Bank deadline will not be met and the nation will go bankrupt. Then a week or so before the govt used to beg our friends and some how the payments were made. Banks were selling yellow cabs and then running after political workers for payments. No wonder every big financial institution was on the verge of death. Engineers who used to pass out after spending on average 7 years in the universities had to run from pillar to post for employment. The list goes on.

    In 2007 we actually had a shortage of professional namely Engineers and MBA’s, final year students had multiple job offers!. Plumbers, electiricians, thelay wala’s, mistry, tarkhan all have cell phones and all are busy dodging clients. I talked to a junior plumber who works in my apartment building, he turned down a 15000Rs/month offer from a contractor, and said, “I make much more as a freelancer”. This is how you decrease poverty, it takes time but the only way to do it is sustained economic growth, not by distributing PIA and government jobs.

    All the statics I presented are true, and can be confirmed from neutral sources. therefore, they are not discussed in the Jamaatee infilterated media. I don’t claim that angels were ruling the land, yes mistakes were made and consequences endured. But a fool hardy and whining nation which desires change, should produce new leadership to do that otherwise should stick to what is tangible and makes sense.


  8. IUnknown (iunknown) on August 28th, 2008 @ 8:48 am

    @kami (a.k.a liberal facist): do u think mobile phone can save the life of ppl or 1 time food?

    Ppl have started selling their children in the mush. era. Never heard that before in my life.

    MISTAKES???????? u call them mistakes??? i wish same thing happens with ur family and then i will see wat u call it.

    I am not jamattee but im against all such liberal facists who are trying to strip the nation and spread sharab, zinaa etc.


  9. Monazza Talha (montaleast13) on August 28th, 2008 @ 11:17 am

    @kaami

    What are those neutral sources? Could you kindly cite a few?

    Thanks, Monazza.


  10. kaami on August 29th, 2008 @ 1:34 am

    Mr. IUNKNOWN people have been selling not only their children but themselves for centuries in the sub-continent, immense poverty has always been there but now we have media which can use it to attain its objectives. I have some questions:

    1/ How come various talk show hosts have conveniently ignored the news that a Swiss court has just unfrozen a 50 million dollar Account of Mr. Asif Zardari. He is a public figure so his accounts are in public domain, so questions should be asked?

    2/ A question for our judges. How come a low level British Magistrate forced Mr. Sharif to return 400 million dollars to a Bank, whereas, our judges despite all the evidence did not have the guts to convict any one for 8 years, all they did was give dates and made money. Now people raise hue and cry about NRO / judiciary. What a farse?

    These thiefs accumulated wealth when the total foreign exchange reserve of the country was around 500 million dollars, and you know what, 50 million is 10% of the whole country’s reserve at that time, (how appropriate) and 400 million is 80%. Now they are Sahibs and the one man that did so much for the country during very tough times is the target of ridicule. No doubt ungrateful, whining and impatient nations get what they deserve.

    And now Moonazza :

    Its good to be opinionated but remember, that doesn’t mean that you have an informed opinion as well. I did not need to give you sources of my statistics, because in this informed age when you go about expressing yourself in various blogs its your duty to research and then form an opinion. Beolw are some links, you can find many more, just remember to distinguish between rhetoric and facts.

    No nations is without problems, be that economic or political. Same is the case with Pakistan. Pakistan’s economic problems have dramatically changed from what they were in 1999. At that time it was destitude begging for money and now (I quote):

    “Now Pakistan faces higher quality problems—the problems of success. Demand has risen faster than supply. This has shown up in high inflation and a zooming trade deficit. The “tight fiscal, easy money” formula to get growth going needs to be “tight fiscal, tight money and credit” to sustain rapid growth. Idle domestic production capacity allowed the rising demand to be accommodated by rising capacity utilization in cement, steel, fertilizer, textiles, automobiles and motorcycles. Now that capacity is more than fully utilized, resulting in backlogs and imports”

    Here are some links:

    http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/economics-business/country-profile-140.html
    http://www.adb.org/documents/economic_updates/pak/
    http://www.adb.org/documents/economic_updates/pak/eco-update-pak-apr2007.pdf
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Pakistan#Recent_economic_history

    Non Neutral

    http://www.finance.gov.pk/


  11. kaami on August 29th, 2008 @ 1:36 am

    Mr. IUNKNOWN people have been selling not only their children but themselves for centuries in the sub-continent, immense poverty has always been there but now we have media which can use it to attain its objectives. I have some questions:

    1/ How come various talk show hosts have conveniently ignored the news that a Swiss court has just unfrozen a 50 million dollar Account of Mr. Asif Zardari. He is a public figure so his accounts are in public domain, so questions should be asked?

    2/ A question for our judges. How come a low level British Magistrate forced Mr. Sharif to return 400 million dollars to a Bank, whereas, our judges despite all the evidence did not have the guts to convict any one for 8 years, all they did was give dates and made money. Now people raise hue and cry about NRO / judiciary. What a farse?

    These thiefs accumulated this wealth when the total foreign exchange reserve of the country was around 500 million dollars, and you know what, 50 million is 10% of the whole country’s reserve at that time, (how appropriate) and 400 million is 80%. Now they are Sahibs and the one man that did so much for the country during very tough times is the target of ridicule. No doubt ungrateful, whining and impatient nations get what they deserve.


  12. kaami on August 29th, 2008 @ 1:38 am

    An now Moonazza :
    Its good to be opinionated but remember that doesn’t mean that you have an informed opinion as well. I need not give you sources of my statistics, because in this informed age when you go about expressing yourself in various blogs that its your duty to research and then form an opinion. Below are some links, you can find many more, just remember to distinguish between rhetoric and facts.

    No nations is without problems, be that economic or political, same is the case with Pakistan. Pakistan’s economic problems have dramatically changed from what they were in 1999. At that time it was destitude begging for money and now (I quote):

    “Now Pakistan faces higher quality problems—the problems of success. Demand has risen faster than supply. This has shown up in high inflation and a zooming trade deficit. The “tight fiscal, easy money” formula to get growth going needs to be “tight fiscal, tight money and credit” to sustain rapid growth. Idle domestic production capacity allowed the rising demand to be accommodated by rising capacity utilization in cement, steel, fertilizer, textiles, automobiles and motorcycles. Now that capacity is more than fully utilized, resulting in backlogs and imports”

    http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/economics-business/country-profile-140.html
    http://www.adb.org/documents/economic_updates/pak/
    http://www.adb.org/documents/economic_updates/pak/eco-update-pak-apr2007.pdf
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Pakistan#Recent_economic_history

    Non Neutral

    http://www.finance.gov.pk/


  13. kaami on August 29th, 2008 @ 1:41 am

    An now Moonazza :

    Its good to be opinionated but remember that doesn’t mean that you have an informed opinion as well. I did not need to give you sources of my statistics, because in this informed age when you go about expressing yourself in various blogs that its your duty to research and then form an opinion. Below are some links, you can find many more, just remember to distinguish between rhetoric and facts.

    No nations is without problems, be that economic or political, same is the case with Pakistan. Pakistan’s economic problems have dramatically changed from what they were in 1999. At that time it was destitude begging for money and now (I quote) :

    “Now Pakistan faces higher quality problems—the problems of success. Demand has risen faster than supply. This has shown up in high inflation and a zooming trade deficit. The “tight fiscal, easy money” formula to get growth going needs to be “tight fiscal, tight money and credit” to sustain rapid growth. Idle domestic production capacity allowed the rising demand to be accommodated by rising capacity utilization in cement, steel, fertilizer, textiles, automobiles and motorcycles. Now that capacity is more than fully utilized, resulting in backlogs and imports”

    Here are some links:
    earthtrends.wri.org/text/economics-business/country-profile-140.html
    http://www.adb.org/documents/economic_updates/pak/
    http://www.adb.org/documents/economic_updates/pak/eco-update-pak-apr2007.pdf
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Pakistan#Recent_economic_history

    Non Neutral
    finance.gov.pk/


  14. IUnknown (iunknown) on August 29th, 2008 @ 9:59 am

    yep, all of our higher commmand is corrupt including Pervaiz Ashfaq Kiyani. They all deserve bullet "at least".

    Dont yell media media dude. We need to get rid of higher officials, who are acting like american viceroys. Only then our country can be prosperious rather than following US policies.

    and LoL .. u are asking us to look at finance.gov.pk/.. who have sissy chairman. hahahaha .. wat can be expect if our officials are like that


  15. kaami on August 29th, 2008 @ 8:28 pm

    IUNKNOWN

    For your info I have labelled the finance ministry website as non neutral. And I give another non-neutral one: cbr.gov.pk/

    Let me make you privy to a little secret i.e. to form an informed opinion you have to look at both sides of the picture and then decide. If you glance back into the governing practice for the last eight years, then you will notice all the information about CBR, Finance ministry, Public contracts and Revenue Collection is in public domain. You can find the whole balance sheet of the country, quite easily if you tried. Departments like CBR, NADRA, Immigration & Passport, Customs and ministry of Finance have been commended internationally in this regard. Goto the CBR website and you will know how much info is there.

    BTW from me you guys want statistics and their sources, May I ask where the substance in your rhetoric ? The best of Pakistan are already out of the country. Those who came back during Mush reign are flying out. You are suggesting bullets for the saner elements that remain, and when they are gone, I guess intellectuals like you will remain, good luck to Pakistan!


  16. kaami on August 30th, 2008 @ 9:08 am

    Economy is lightly better…. This very sentence shows a lack of understanding / naivity from your part.

    Here are my after thoughts:

    1/ How come various talk show hosts / bloggers have conveniently ignored the news that a Swiss court has just unfrozen a 50 million dollar Account of Mr. Asif Zardari. He is a public figure so his accounts are in public domain, so questions should be asked?

    2/ A question for our judges. How come a low level British Magistrate forced Mr. Sharif to return 400 million dollars to a Bank, whereas, our judges despite all the evidence did not have the guts to convict anyone for 8 years, all they did was give dates and made money. Now people raise hue and cry about judiciary. What a farse?

    These thiefs accumulated wealth when the total foreign exchange reserve of the country was around 500 million dollars, and you know what, 50 million is 10% of the whole country’s reserve at that time, (how appropriate) and 400 million is 80%. Now they are Sahibs, No doubt whining, forgetful and impatient nations get what they deserve.

    No country is without problems, be that economic or political, same is the case with Pakistan. Pakistan’s economic problems have dramatically changed from what they were in 1999. At that time it was a destitute country begging for money to meet quarterly IMF deadlines, on the other hand, banks were giving yellow cabs for free to the political workers and every major financial institution was on the verge of collapse. There were grand govt sponsored scams like "Qarz uttaro Mulk Sanwaro" , "Saver Raffle", "Vision 2010" and "All projects to Daewoo" – all this conveniently forgotten . Now there are problems too (I quote) :

    “Now Pakistan faces higher quality problems—the problems of success. Demand has risen faster than supply. This has shown up in high inflation and a zooming trade deficit. The “tight fiscal, easy money” formula to get growth going needs to be “tight fiscal, tight money and credit” to sustain rapid growth. Idle domestic production capacity allowed the rising demand to be accommodated by rising capacity utilization in cement, steel, fertilizer, textiles, automobiles and motorcycles. Now that capacity is more than fully utilized, resulting in backlogs and imports”

    To top it off the real problems are: living in denial, blame everything on on US mentality, sympathy for fanatics and most importantly "lack of quality sex"


  17. kaami on August 30th, 2008 @ 9:11 am

    Sorry folks late night and multiple posts


  18. IUnknown (iunknown) on August 31st, 2008 @ 2:09 pm

    ur last paragraph of last post shows ur mentality @kaami.

    no need to say any thing else against ur lame arguments



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