Rally

I was busy working (ok i was surfing a bit too) when i heard a mob like noise that was coming from outside. I got up, went up to the window and looked outside to find out what was going on. I saw a group of people walking walking on Jinnah Avenue and chanting some slogans. I could not find out what the rally was about. Even though i hung myself out of the window (as much as i could without falling) to catch a glimpse of the writings on the banners, but i failed. Today i tried finding about the rally by scanning the newspapers but failed yet again. If anyone knows, do let me know. Meanwhile check out the snap i took by putting my life at risk by hanging out of the window. ;-)

Rally on Jinnah Avenue

Rally on Jinnah Avenue

PS: I didn’t really put my life in danger so please be at ease. ;-)

22 Comments so far

  1. wkhang on January 23rd, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

    Dear do please do not put life in danger, we all want to view your posts here, more then that your family always looks fwd to you, so TAKE IT EASY : ).

    Now a days we have a trend in Pakistan that protest for every thing which they do not like it or it does hurt them or against the mood of the nation, which is a good and positive act, but some time this protest cause some damage and took some lives as well because we are hyperd nation as you proved it by hanging out side the window : ).

    This Nation is learning a positive protest but how long we all will protest and ask the Government ?

    This protest could be about Electricity, Gas, Petrol, Advocates, Obama or Against Israel the killer.

    http://air16.blogspot.com/


  2. kabirdas on January 24th, 2009 @ 12:54 am

    Yes, the protest could have been against any of the host of issues except religious bigotry which is eating away the very foundatin of this nation. A protest against that is really endangering ones life and not by leaning out of a window!!


  3. A for [pine]Apple (asmamirza) on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:10 am

    All Is aw towards the end of constitution avenue was maltay kay chilkay (keeenooo may be) and loads and loads of them ;)


  4. kabirdas on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:50 am

    Asma Mirza:

    Poor power of observation. You failed to see the shredded pages of our constitution on the PCO or so called Constitution Avenue. The Ides of March are coming close now. Watch out for Kabir Das. He will be there on 9th March to pick those pages up to put them together once for all. On that day ‘the saints will go marching in’ the Assembly Hall and the Supreme Court to restore the rule of law and Kabir Das ‘ will be in that number’ singing ‘ Oh, when the saints go marching in. I want to be in that number’.


  5. kabirdas on January 24th, 2009 @ 10:51 am

    And also singing ‘Hail to the Chief’


  6. zaheerq on January 24th, 2009 @ 3:57 pm

    this post is a true reflection of our civil sense. people were yelling outside and all this writer could do was to take a picture from his comfortable office window. when we will be able to feel the pain of others especially in our society where every 2nd person is a victim of un justice?


  7. Fahim Akhter (fahimakhter) on January 26th, 2009 @ 11:17 am

    @zaheerq, well mate to be honest 90% of the protests in Pakistan are not from the people in pain but people who got some cool breakfast this morning for free. And well let’s not start about the judiciary here.

    …..

    I don’t know I don’t believe in all these peaceful marches which end up in a note at the end from a big building saying ‘we condemn what your doing’. Like hello do I really care about what you feel about it?

    Alot will disagree but I don’t know I’m more of a cut all of their heads of revolution sort of a guy. So ya, I believe in peace


  8. zaheerq on January 26th, 2009 @ 12:12 pm

    @fahimakhter :) for me its ok when you wrote that many will disagree from your way of looking at the picture, all i can add is that if you believe in peace then you should ask for it if you are not getting it. and you should also think the same for others i mean you should help anyone who is not getting peace. i think this is called believing in peace.


  9. kabirdas on January 26th, 2009 @ 12:55 pm

    Burying your head in sand like an ostrich or closing your eyes on seeing danger like a pigeon may be a wish for peace but doesn’t get you peace. For peace, I am afraid, you have to catch the bull by its horn. You don’t get peace, you don’t get justice, you don’t get freedom just by asking for it. History is a witness to the fact that to get your rights you have to fight for it. Wishing and praying doesn’t help, has never helped nor will ever help.

    DHARNA HO GA, DHARNA HO GA
    CHIEF KI BAHALI TAK


  10. wkhang on January 26th, 2009 @ 5:06 pm

    In this case yes only wishing and praying really is not going to help but never or ever thats rings the bell inside me, hey if we remove wishes and prays out of our life what will left ?

    Go for a peace Dhanrna : )


  11. kabirdas on January 26th, 2009 @ 7:42 pm

    @ wkhang

    1. Glad you agreed in this case wishing and praying is not going to help.

    2. If prayers and wishing being ineffective rings a bell inside you then let me hear that bell also. Tell me one instance in history when it worked. Did it work when 6 million jews were burnt in gas chambers or was it that they did not pray. Is it working now when thousands of innocent Palestanians are being killed or is it that they are not praying. In the name of heavens save my soul and give me just one instance of the efficacy of praying.

    3. If we removed wishing and praying from our life we will be much better off since we will be better equipped to face the challanges of this world which are many and are to be faced with courage and dignity and not by appealing to imaginary allies in the sky.

    4. Is there anything like a peaceful Dharna??


  12. kabirdas on January 26th, 2009 @ 8:00 pm

    Contd.

    4. Is there anything like a peaceful Dharna?? If there is we will indeed be peaceful. We will assure the govt of that. We will give in writing to the govt that we will be peaceful. However, if we are compelled not to be peaceful then we won’t be peaceful despite our commitment in writing. After all what commitment we may make orally or in writing infront of witnesses and public wont be the words of Quran and Hadis that must be followed as per the words of the President of Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Honourable Asif Ali Zardari.


  13. wkhang on January 30th, 2009 @ 3:23 pm

    Mr. Das,

    Will reply you soon, busy at work : ),,,you can pray for me from your heart that May Allah help wkhang to finish his task on time, amin.

    Will come back to you soon on ringing bells, for sure I will try to bang your inside bells which some of them are sleeping and one or two ringing the wrong songs it sounds us that you have two songs are going at one time. ; /….

    CYA SOON


  14. kabirdas on January 30th, 2009 @ 3:53 pm

    @ wkhang on January 30th.

    1. Allah wound the clock and set it in motion some 15 billion years ago to keep working in accordance with some fixed laws of nature. It has been doing that since then without any let or hindrance from Him.

    2. Since then Allal is minding His own business and seems would like us to get along with our own business.

    3. He is not like a king who holds his daily Darbar to listen to people’s wishes and grievances and then grant some wishes and not grant some depending on His mood at the time. Everything is being done according to some fixed laws.

    Therefore, sir, I will not waste my time praying for you and won’t give you any false sense of security. The work will get done if you applied yourself to it wholeheartedly. Under the circumstances what I can do for you is to wish you good luck with the timely completion of your work. I do believe in luck.

    Hope to see you soon after your work is done through your best efforts.


  15. kabirdas on January 30th, 2009 @ 3:57 pm

    And if I do pray for you doesn’t it look like Sifarash to you. And do you believe Allah listens to Sifarash.


  16. ibteda on February 4th, 2009 @ 7:48 pm

    The protest was being held by CDA daily wages workers – being supported by the lbour union at CDA. The were protesting agaisnt political interference in CDA administration and the new chairman. The administration had agreed to meed some demands and has apparently turned its back on them now.


  17. kabirdas on February 4th, 2009 @ 11:33 pm

    Aha, so that is what it was all about. Protesing against adminstration to turn its back on something they had agreed to earlier on! Do they expect to achieve anything by it? After all the adminstration’s committment were not the words of Quran or Hadis which can’t be changed or ignored!!!


  18. kabirdas on February 8th, 2009 @ 12:36 am

    @ wkhang on January 30th.

    This morning when dusting my books lovingly as part of spring cleaning I came across the following passege marked in pencil by me in Bertrand Russell’s book Imapct of Science on Society. This book was the prescribed book in our English course when I did my FSc many decades back. I thought I may share this quoe of BR,who later became my guru, with you in the hope that where I may fail he may not. This reads as follows:
    It is not by prayer and humility that you cause things to go as you wish, but by acquiring knowledge of natural laws. The power you acquire in this way is much greater and more reliable than that formerly supposed to be acquired by prayer, because you could never tell whether your prayer would favouarably be heard in Heaven. The power of prayer, moreover, had recognized limits; it would have been impious to ask too much. But the power of science has no known limits. We were told that faith could move mountains, but no one believed it; we are now told that the atomic bomb can remove mountains, and everyone believes it.

    (BR—–The Impact of Science on Society)


  19. wkhang on February 11th, 2009 @ 2:16 am

    I m back for a little time : ) and I have completed 70% of my work with the help of Allah the only listner of this universe, I did started my work with pray that give me the strength and open my heart and mind, so he did for me and I am fealing his touch in side my heart.

    Will be back in a bit with you for the positive reply to you : )


  20. wkhang on February 11th, 2009 @ 3:40 am

    Mr. Das or Kabir,

    You have choose the man created book Bertrand Russell to proof science, he may be a good writer or scientist, I do not have any problem with him or any one. It looks like you have tons of books in your room and you love to read them and try to implement into your regular life and some how you have proved me/us in the past with your replied comments.
    From my understanding from your comments e.g
    1. Allah wound the clock and set it in motion some 15 billion years ago to keep working in accordance with some fixed laws of nature. It has been doing that since then without any let or hindrance from Him
    2. Since then Allal is minding His own business and seems would like us to get along with our own business.
    3. He is not like a king who holds his daily Darbar to listen to people’s wishes and grievances and then grant some wishes and not grant some depending on His mood at the time. Everything is being done according to some fixed laws
    Your Previous comments:
    2. If prayers and wishing being ineffective rings a bell inside you then let me hear that bell also. Tell me one instance in history when it worked. Did it work when 6 million jews were burnt in gas chambers or was it that they did not pray. Is it working now when thousands of innocent Palestanians are being killed or is it that they are not praying. In the name of heavens save my soul and give me just one instance of the efficacy of praying.
    3. If we removed wishing and praying from our life we will be much better off since we will be better equipped to face the challanges of this world which are many and are to be faced with courage and dignity and not by appealing to imaginary allies in the sky.

    My answer for you that Allah do listen us if we pray from our heart, yes that is his decision that is approve it or not, he is the king whatever he wish to do he just to it.

    Here are answers for you, if you have guts to read it than read if cant read than print it, read it later on.

    Believe it, act it, implement it and write the truth. : )

    A prayer or a du‘a is not the crutch of the weak or the incapable. It is the finest strategy for all kinds of success—whether material or spiritual.
    Most of the time men have worded their prayers in their own languages. However, the finest of the prayers are the ones worded by Allah(SWT) Himself and mentioned in the Qur’ân.

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    Supplication for acceptance of efforts

    Rabbanaa ta-qabbal minnaa ‘innaka ‘Antas-Samii-‘ul-‘Aliim
    Our Rabb! accept from us. You indeed, You are the all-Hearing, the all-Knowing. (2:127)

    History and Significance
    While Prophet Ibrahim, along with his son Ismail, was raising the foundation of the House of Ka’aba, they both offered this supplication to Allah (swt) to accept their effort of construction. A perfect supplication, that we should offer whenever we are initiating any project or effort.
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    Supplication for Acceptance of Prayers

    Rabbij-‘alnii muqii-mas-Salaati wa min zurriyyatii, Rabbanaa wa taqabbal Du-‘aaa
    My Rabb! make me steadfast in Salat and from my offspring; our Rabb! and accept my prayer. (14:40)

    History and Significance
    In his old age, Prophet Ibrahim (pbh) was gifted with two sons – Isma’il and Is-haq. As a parent, he supplicated to Allah (swt) to make him steadfast in his salat. He also asked to make his offspring steadfast in their salat. Although we may be offering our salat sincerely, it remains with Allah (swt) to accept our salat. Thus , this supplication begs that Allah (swt) may not reject our salat. If Allah (swt) wills, He will reward us for our attempt in making a salat.

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    Supplication for protection against evil-ones

    Rabbi’a-uuzubika min hamazaatish -shayaatiini
    Wa ‘a-uuzu bika Rabbi ‘any-yahzuruun
    My Rabb! I take refuge with You — from the prompting of the Evil-ones;
    And I take refuge with You, O Rabb! lest they come up to me. (23:97-98)

    History and Significance
    In Surah Al-Mu’minun, Allah (swt) has instructed Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) to recite this supplication in the face of oppression by the leaders of Quraish.

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    Supplication against oppressors

    Rabbanaa ‘akhrijnaa min haazihil qaryatiz-zalimi ‘ahluhaa; waj-‘al-lanaa mil la-dunka waliy-yanw waj-‘al lanaa milla dunka naseeraa
    Our Rabb! take us out of this habitat whose people are oppressors, and make for us a protecting-friend from Your presence and make for us a helper from Your presence. (4:75)

    History and Significance
    Believing slaves, both males, females and children, who were persecuted in Makkah, made this supplication to Allah to protect them from the oppressors

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    Supplication for good of both worlds

    Rabbanaaa ‘aatinaa fiddunyaa hasanatanw wa fil ‘aakhirati hasanatanw-wa qinaa ‘azaaban-naar.
    Our Rabb! give us good in this world, and good in the Hereafter, and save us from the chastisement of the Fire. (2:201)

    History and Significance
    This supplication which is made by Muslims are compared to another supplication mentioned in the previous verse (2:200). That supplication is "Our Rabb! give us in this world". That supplicantion, made by worldly individuals, is insufficient and provides no share in the Hereafter. Based on these two supplications, Allah (swt) is recommending us to ask for good in both the worlds, here and the hereafter

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    Supplication for knowledge

    Rabbi zidnee ‘ilmaa
    My Rabb! increase me in knowledge. (20:114)

    History and Significance
    This supplication is taught to Muhammad (PBUH) by Allah Himself in Surah Ta Ha. The verse relates to an instruction not to hasten with Qur-an before it is completely revealed. While revealation of Qur-an was incomplete, our Rasul (PBUH) was instructed to make this supplication. In our situation, when our knowledge is limited about Qur-an, we should always make this supplication to understand Qur-an more. If Allah grants us knowledge, whether in the field of theology, science or technology, then we should be able to understand Qur-an even better.

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    Supplication against natural calamity

    Rabbi law shi’-ta ‘ahlak-ta hum-minqablu wa ‘iyyaay. ‘Atuh-liku-naa bimaa fa-‘alas-sufahaa-‘uminnaa. ‘In hiya ‘illaa fitna-tuk. Tuzillu bihaa man-tashaa-‘u wa tahdil man-tashaa. ‘Anta waliyyunaa fagfir lanaa warhamnaa wa ‘anta khayrul-gaafiriin.

    My Rabb! if You had so wished, You could have destroyed them before this, and me. Will You destroy us on account of what the foolish among us have done? This is nothing but Your trial. You leave in straying thereby whom You please and You guide whom You please. You are our Protector, therefore forgive us and have Mercy on us, for You are the Best of forgivers. (7:155)

    History and Significance
    During the absence of Prophet Musa (pbh), Israilites took a calf as an object of worship. When Musa returned to his people, he was angry and sad at this development. Then Musa selected 70 men of unsound faith for Allah’s tryst. These people of dubious faith were overtaken by an earthquake. At that time, Musa (pbh) made this supplication to rescue the people who were not at fault

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    Supplication for offspring

    Rabbi hab lii mil-ladunka zurriyyatan tayyibah ‘innaka samii-‘ud-du’aa’
    My Rabb! give me from Yourself a pure offspring. You are indeed Hearer of prayer. (3:37)

    History and Significance
    Prophet Zakariya made this supplication as mentioned in Surah Al-e-Imran. Zakariya was guardian of Maryam. When Maryam grew up in purity and devoutness, Zakariya longed for such a child for himself – a child who would be as pure, virtuous and honorable as Maryam. In the following verse, 3:38, malaks brought the glad tidings of Yahya, "a noble and a chaste man, and a nabi from among the righteous". Note the emphasis at the end of the supplication that Allah is "indeed Hearer of prayer". Do we need any other kind of reassurance?

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    Supplication for orators and writers

    Rabbisrah lii sadrii, Wa yassir lii ‘amrii, Wahlul ‘uqdatam-mil-li-saanii’ Yafqahuu qawlii
    My Rabb! expand for me my breast, and make my affair easy for me, and release the knot from my tongue, they may understand my speech. (20:25-28)

    History and Significance
    Prophet Musa (pbh) made this supplication while proceeding to the court of Fir’awn for the arguments. In this supplication, there is request to increase knowledge base – an important requirement for arguments. The second request is to remove physical limitations or limitation of resources. This limitation could be a writer’s block that we often face. Also, the third request is to make a lucid, easy to understand arguments. As we know, Musa (pbh) was succesful in the Fir’awn’s court and the wise men in the court had accepted the truth.

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    Supplication for parents

    Rabba-nagfir lee wa li-waali-dayya wa lil mu’mi-niina yawma yaquu-mul hisaab
    Our Rabb! protect me and my parents and the Believers — on the day when the reckoning is set up. (14:41)

    History and Significance
    This supplication, which is a part of a series of supplication made by Prophet Ibrahim (pbh), as mentioned in Surah Ibrahim. This is an extraordinary supplication where Ibrahim (pbh) is not only asking for him and his parents, but for all the believers. This should be an example for us to include other believers in our supplications so that Allah grants His mercy to all Muslims. This supplication is not only for the supplicator and his (her) parents but also for the whole believer community. When we all make this supplication, we are in fact seeking protection for each other on the day of Reckoning.

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    Supplication for keeping in the right path

    Rabbi hab lii hukmanwa ‘alhiqnee bis-saaliheen
    My Rabb! grant me wisdom, and join me with the righteous. (26:83)

    History and Significance
    Prophet Ibrahim(pbh) had made this supplication as mentioned in Surah As-Shu’ara (the Poets). Ibrahim (pbh) was making a dawah to his sire Azar and his people. The people were disbelievers. Ibrahim (pbh) while explaing to the people about the truth and benefits of obeying Allah, made this supplication.
    This supplication stresses that our knowledge should guide us to be righteous. We are to be righetous, not blindly, but based on sound knowledge and wisdom. By making this supplication we are eliminating the blind following of ancestral ways. Wisdom will enrich us to understand the divine message better and in turn we could be righteous people.
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    Supplication for shelter

    Rabbi ‘innii limaaa ‘anzalta ‘ilayya min khairin-faqeer
    My Rabb!I am indeed needy of whatever good You may send to me. (28:24)

    History and Significance
    Prophet Musa (pbh) was traveling to the desert of Madyan and he found some men were watering their animals and two women were standing helpless. Musa (pbh) helped these women with water, and then returned to a shade of a tree. At this time, he made this supplication with a reference to the shade of the tree as whatever good thing. Allah responded to this supplication. As a result, one of these women came to him and with an invitation from her old father. The old man was kind to Musa, offered him shelter and gave one of the two daughters in marriage to Musa.

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    Supplication for victory of Islam

    Rabbanaa laa tu-‘aa-khiznaa ‘in-nasiinaa ‘aw ‘akhta’-naa. Rabbana wa laa tahmil ‘alaynaa ‘is-ran-kamaa hamal-tahuu ‘alal-lazina min-qablinaa. Rabbana wa laa tuhammil-naa maa laa taaqata lanaa bih. Wa’-fu ‘annaa wag-fir lanaa, war-ham-na. ‘Anta mawlaa naa fan-surnaa ‘alal-qawmil kaafireen.
    Our Rabb! do not take us to task if we forget, or we make a mistake; our Rabb! and do not lay upon us a burden as you had lain on those before us; our Rabb! and do not impose upon us that for which no strength have we. Therefore pardon us; and grant us protection; and be kind to us. You are our Patron; therefore help us over the Unbelieving people. (2:286)

    History and Significance
    This is the concluding verse of Surah Al-Baqarah. This supplication is very important since one hadith narrates that "whoever prays as taught in the last two verses of the Baqarah, they are sufficient for him" (Bu. 64:12). Although this supplication is meant for victory of Islam, it also stresses the need to be humble and need to protect us from evil.

    Surah Al Ikhlas- Chapter of The Purity
    In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Say: He is Allah, the One and Only! Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten. And there is none like unto Him.

    The evidence that Allah is the only Creator of life may be found in many places in the Qur’an and Sunnah. For example:

    "Blessed is He in Whose Hand is the dominion, and He is Able to do all things,
    Who has created death and life, that He may test you which of you is best in deed, and He is the All-Mighty, the Oft-Forgiving."
    [al-Mulk 67:1-2]

    "Is, then, He Who creates as one who creates not?"
    [al-Nahl 16:17]

    "Yet they have taken besides Him other gods that created nothing but are themselves created . . ."
    [al-Furqaan 25:3]

    Allah challenged all of mankind to create even the most insignificant creature, i.e. a fly, but no one could do that and no one ever will. Allah says:

    "O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): verily! Those on whom you call besides Allah cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatched away a thing from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought."
    [al-Hajj 22:73]

    Imam al-Bukhari reported in his Saheeh from Abu Sa‘eed (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (Peace & Blessings of Allah be upon Him) said: "There is no created being but Allah created it." In Arabic, the word "khalaqa" means to make out of nothing, which is something that only Allah can do; it is impossible for anyone except Allah to do this. It also carries the meaning of decreeing or foreordaining. [**]

    See Fath al-Bari Sharh Saheeh al-Bukhari, 13/390.

    The Religion of Allah (Islam) is proud and cannot be defeated by the kaafirs’ arrogance about the knowledge they possess. Allah says:

    ". . . [they] are deceived by the life of this world . . ."
    [al-An‘aam 6:70]

    "They know only the outside appearance of the life of this world, and they are heedless of the Hereafter."
    [al-Rum 30:7]

    Can your science create a fly ? or LIFE ? simple is that whatever positive things man is doing in science its all given by Allah.

    We ask Allah to help us to be steadfast in our adherence to His Religion, and to make our end good. And Allah knows best.

    If you required more help ask me I can provide you, but for real come to the PEACE ISLAM.

    Okay will talk with you soon take care, May Allah give you strength to face the truth. AMIN

    R/

    W


  21. kabirdas on February 11th, 2009 @ 9:13 pm

    @ wkhang

    I was talking of reason and logic and not of your or mine faith. My guru has this to say about faith:

    " We may define ‘faith’ as a firm belief in something for which there is no evidence. Where there is evidence, no one speaks of ‘faith’. We do not speak of faith that two and two are four or that the earth is round. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence.
    (BR—Human Society In Eithics and Politics)

    You have not even addressed the issue which I had in regard to the efficacy of prayers. Instead you have quoted a large number of prayers which proves nothing. I know these prayers and many more which you may not even heard of !!

    Yes, I do need more help from you. Will you please be so kind as to let me know what have you really tried to prove or show by quoting a body of prayers.

    Rest assured Allah has given me enough strength to search for truth and face it rather than console myself with comforting myths.

    I will request you to be brief and to the point in your arguments.


  22. wkhang on February 11th, 2009 @ 10:23 pm

    Dua are prayers okay and I tried to prove it, also you said that does not worked thats why I provide you enough evidence about it that it does approve and listen by Allah.

    Who is your guru ?

    I think you have missed your points 1,23… which I quoted into my last reply where I mentioned, Dua and the presence of Allah.

    I am having problem to understand you seriously, : ) but no big deal.

    No further explaination on this topic by me.

    TC



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